<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Torkaholic
An interesting and scary thread. In 1988, when they were still respectable, I bought a Civic Sedan which I liked so much, I ended up keeping it for ten years, so I still feel some affection for these cars, at least the "clean" now-older ones. A few days ago, on another forum, the topic of Corollas vs. Civics as new buys came up, with the originator trying to decide between the two. Here's what I had to say on the issue. I really hope the wonderful G does not suffer the same fate.
"I was the happy, ten year owner of a terrific 1988 Civic LX Sedan, but I've got to weigh in in favor of the Corolla. I'm very displeased with the evolutionary direction the Civic has taken. The newer examples just don't seem to have the same good feel as the one I had. Laugh if you will, but my 88 sort of made me think this is what BMW would have produced if they had been forced to build a FWD version of the old early 70s 2002. Low stance, flat cornering, big open "greenhouse", precise shifting, etc. It was only when you got frisky with the gas pedal that you got a quick and certain reminder that this car came from across the other ocean. The new ones just don't have this feel at all.
There's another problem, I'll call it a "social issue" with the Civics. While it has little to do with the "mechanical merits" of the car, it seems like the whole Civic identity has been hijacked by a legion of young guys intent on making what was once the premier "economy" car into a performance machine. While a very small minority of these guys actually do succeed in producing a fast Civic, most are bathtub surgeons whose malpractice results in monstrous orange, black, and purple things with hopeless whaletails and "Type-R" stickers slapped all over them that hobble-bobble down the road on frightfully misrigged suspensions, while the emanations from their fartcan mufflers assault the eardrums of everyone else. And the really scary thing is that the "patients" of these "surgeons" seem to be getting newer and newer every year.
OK, maybe that was a tad harsh. But the phenomenon is out there and can't be denied. I can only conclude that this is going to ultimately have a drastic effect on the residual value of all Civics as the image of the car moves from that of a respected teacher's car to RICER!!!. Buy with care. "
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I agree.....[werd]
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