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Old 05-11-2004, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were on the internet broadcast that was put out of an American being decapitated.

At the moment, I am pretty disgusted with the world that we have to live in.
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Old 05-11-2004, 06:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I hadn't heard, but I just checked CNN. That's pretty awful.
However, I can't take the moral high ground here. Some idiot Amerian soldiers tortured Iraqi prisoners, and they represent me as an American.

Edit: I don't mean to equate torture with murder. I'm just saying that there are monsters on both sides.

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Old 05-11-2004, 08:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with you straun.

I'll be glad when we get out of Iraq. I'm sure some Iraqis will be pissed off because we didn't stay and help, but alot of them are already pissed off because we are still there. It's a lose lose situation.

The report said that the guy decapitating the guy was saying "god is great". I wish they could see that war has nothing to do with religion. I don't think any god would want people to kill other people for any reason. Thats my 2 cents.
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Old 05-11-2004, 09:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What is truly sad is that so many people for so long have been killed in the name of religion. And most religions consider killing another person a bad thing, it just does not make sense. Many wars are based purely on religion, the Crusades were probably the most famous of them. I say bring the boys home and let them kill each other over there. Just let them know if they come mess with us we will be back and even more destructive.
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Old 05-11-2004, 09:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I agree. Religion is one, if not the, leading cause of death in the world in one form or another. Religion is suppose to teach tolerance and love but it seems to end up as intolerance and even hatred. I just don't get it either.
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The trouble is when you instill xenophobia in people and put the infallibility of God behind them. Then they believe their hatred of others is somehow right.

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I just saw the whole footage this morning, and I have been nauseous ever since. That was the most disturbing footage I have ever seen in my life. When they catch the guys that did this, their punishment should be to have the lower half of their bodies boiled in oil before being executed. They beheaded the guy in such a way that his sceaming could be heard on the tape before finishing the job. What a heinous crime.

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Old 05-12-2004, 04:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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THE ROBIN WILLIAMS AND ROD COOK PEACE PLAN

This may very well be the best thought out item we have read since 9/11/01.

Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan ... what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan.

1. The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past &present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Noriega, Milosovich and the rest of those good ol' boys: We will never "interfere" again. Spain's government turned coward this last few weeks, don't buy Spanish wine.

2. We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea and Japan. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one sneaking through holes in the fence.

3. All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. France would welcome them.

No more manufacturing to Red China, send it to Mexico. Red Chinese are buying cars at a mad rate and driving up the price of gasoline. Send manufacturing to Mexico. Who the heck in Mexico would want to smuggle themselves into the madhouse here, if they can make money at home. At the same time Mexico has a lot of oil for cars there. Won't hurt us!

4. All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit. No one from a terrorist nation would be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5. No "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" (for "deport") and it's back home baby.

6. The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing non-polluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while. Actually better off because we air drop hay during a bad winter!

7. Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.) All the U.S. take a 2 week vacation at the same time and stay home with the kids! Teach them MLM!

8. If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen by their Government or Army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything. Unless we get to pick who they send to the scummy U.N. > see below

9. Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens. We could donate free space in the Aluetian Islands > cold, wet and isolated.

10. All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH.....learn it...or LEAVE...

Now, ain't that a winner of a plan.

The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, "You want a piece of me?"

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I didn't think that sounded like Robin Williams. Maybe Rush Limbaugh. That videotaped murder is truly heinous, evil incarnate. I'm not going to watch it. I've seen enough revolting things in my life. There is no limit to the evil that men do. And yes, they apparently cried "God is great" before performing the act. That poor, devasted family. But to use "embarassment" of Sadaam loyalists as an exuse to commit cold-blooded murder doesn't wash in my book. There is a huge difference between embarrassment or emotional "torture", and permanently maiming or killing someone. Not to mention, in some cases the US guards were trying to extract info from the soldiers to save other soldiers' lives. I in no way support those means, even if the prisoners were known to run the "rape rooms". But comparing decapitation with a knife to what Iraqi prisoners went thru is apples and oranges, IMHO. Thanks for the clarification of the Robin Wms. quote. You really have to consider the source when getting info from the internet.
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I am with you on this for sure.
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I just think that much of what is going on is sad for humanity as a whole, not only just for us Americans.
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