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Old 09-19-2008, 12:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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nObama and FDR have very similarities.


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In 1910, Roosevelt ran for the New York State Senate from the district around Hyde Park in Dutchess County, which had not elected a Democrat since 1884. He entered the Roosevelt name, with its associated wealth, prestige and influence in the Hudson Valley, and the Democratic landslide that year carried him to the state capital of Albany, New York. Roosevelt entered the state house, January 1, 1911. He became a leader of a group of reformers who opposed Manhattan's Tammany Hall machine which dominated the state Democratic Party. Roosevelt soon became a popular figure among New York Democrats. Reelected for a second term November 5, 1912, he resigned from the New York State Senate on March 17, 1913.[17][18]

1932 presidential election
Main article: United States presidential election, 1932
Roosevelt's strong base in the most populous state made him an obvious candidate for the Democratic nomination, which was hotly contested since it seemed that incumbent Herbert Hoover would be vulnerable in the 1932 election. Al Smith was supported by some city bosses, but had lost control of the New York Democratic party to Roosevelt. Roosevelt built his own national coalition with personal allies such as newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst, Irish leader Joseph P. Kennedy, and California leader William G. McAdoo. When Texas leader John Nance Garner switched to FDR, he was given the vice presidential nomination.

In his acceptance speech, Roosevelt declared:

“ Throughout the nation men and women, forgotten in the political philosophy of the Government, look to us here for guidance and for more equitable opportunity to share in the distribution of national wealth… I pledge you, I pledge myself to a new deal for the American people… This is more than a political campaign. It is a call to arms.[26] ”

The election campaign was conducted under the shadow of the Great Depression in the United States, and the new alliances which it created. Roosevelt and the Democratic Party mobilized the expanded ranks of the poor as well as organized labor, ethnic minorities, urbanites, and Southern whites, crafting the New Deal coalition. During the campaign, Roosevelt said: "I pledge you, I pledge myself, to a new deal for the American people", coining a slogan that was later adopted for his legislative program as well as his new coalition.[27]

New Deal sounds like Obama's Change

After the election, Roosevelt refused Hoover's requests for a meeting to come up with a joint program to stop the downward spiral, claiming it would tie his hands. The economy spiralled downward until the banking system began a complete nationwide shutdown as Hoover's term ended. In February 1933, Roosevelt escaped an assassination attempt (which killed Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak sitting next to him).[32]

His inauguration on March 4, 1933 occurred in the middle of a bank panic, hence the backdrop for his famous words: "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."[38] The very next day he declared a "bank holiday" and announced a plan to allow banks to reopen. However, the number of banks that opened their doors after the "holiday" was less than the number that had been open before.[39] This was his first proposed step to recovery.


Dorothea Lange's Migrant Mother depicts destitute pea pickers during the depression in California, centering on Florence Owens Thompson, a mother of seven children at age 32, March 1936.Relief measures included the continuation of Hoover's major relief program for the unemployed under the new name, Federal Emergency Relief Administration. The most popular of all New Deal agencies, and Roosevelt's favorite, was the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), which hired 250,000 unemployed young men to work on rural local projects. Congress also gave the Federal Trade Commission broad new regulatory powers and provided mortgage relief to millions of farmers and homeowners. Roosevelt expanded a Hoover agency, the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, making it a major source of financing to railroads and industry. Roosevelt made agriculture relief a high priority and set up the first Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA). The AAA tried to force higher prices for commodities by paying farmers to take land out of crops and to cut herds.
Reform of the economy was the goal of the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA) of 1933. It tried to end cutthroat competition by forcing industries to come up with codes that established the rules of operation for all firms within specific industries, such as minimum prices, agreements not to compete, and production restrictions. Industry leaders negotiated the codes which were then approved by NIRA officials. Industry needed to raise wages as a condition for approval. Provisions encouraged unions and suspended anti-trust laws. The NIRA was found to be unconstitutional by unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court on May 27, 1935. Roosevelt opposed the decision, saying "The fundamental purposes and principles of the NIRA are sound. To abandon them is unthinkable. It would spell the return to industrial and labor chaos."[40] In 1933, major new banking regulations were passed. In 1934, the Securities and Exchange Commission was created to regulate Wall Street, with 1932 campaign fundraiser Joseph P. Kennedy in charge.



During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems.[1] Although recovery of the economy was incomplete until almost 1940, the programs he initiated such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), and the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) continue to have instrumental roles in the nation's commerce. One of his most important legacies is the Social Security system.


Roosevelt caused a realignment political scientists call the Fifth Party System. His aggressive use of the federal government created a New Deal Coalition which dominated the Democratic Party until the late 1960s. Roosevelt introduced new taxes that affected all income groups. Conservatives vehemently fought back, but Roosevelt usually prevailed until he tried to pack the Supreme Court in 1937.
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you sound like a very proud repub gard. i would be very ashamed. i feel bad for you. i feel your pain
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you sound like a very proud repub gard. i would be very ashamed. i feel bad for you. i feel your pain
Actually, I am not a republican, I am a Libertarian. I can't stand what the republicans of late have done to my country.
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agreed but you want them to stay in office?
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agreed but you want them to stay in office?
I have to vote for the party that is closest to the Libertarian, and Obama is very far from that. I believe the federal government should only be there for running our national defenses, printing money, maintaining the interstate highways, the CDC and as a liaison for state police agencies.

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so you are voting for the party thats corrupt and cripping our country? yeah that makes alot of sense

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Both the repubs and democrats are corrupt, how much money did nObama get from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?
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Getting all of the mileage that you can out of that huh?

Post up all of the biased articles that you like Gard, I'm not voting for the candidate who thinks this economy is fundamentally strong.
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you gotta be more specific than "the party"
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Getting all of the mileage that you can out of that huh?

Post up all of the biased articles that you like Gard, I'm not voting for the candidate who thinks this economy is fundamentally strong.
Maybe our country's economy is fundamentally strong. I would say the economy is not that strong now, but the basics are there. There are no mass lootings going on in the streets, people can find jobs (maybe not the best pay), you can buy food at the grocery stores, you can get emergency medical help for free if needed.

I know that a lot of people are losing their homes, but many of them would not have been able to have bought the same home years ago without the creative loans.
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Maybe our country's economy is fundamentally strong. I would say the economy is not that strong now, but the basics are there. There are no mass lootings going on in the streets, people can find jobs (maybe not the best pay), you can buy food at the grocery stores, you can get emergency medical help for free if needed.

I know that a lot of people are losing their homes, but many of them would not have been able to have bought the same home years ago without the creative loans.

The American taxpayer is about to take on over a trillion dollars of junk debt in order to keep the economy afloat. Fundamentally strong?
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Please define Fundamentally strong for me, maybe I am thinking the wrong thing.
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