Seriously, the only ones I've seen bring up Obama's race as a potential stumbling block have been himself and his campaign. And who gives a damn about the make-up of the audience when he said that, it doesn't matter one bit.
No actually, its the supporters of "Mccain" and the republican party/supporters who brings it up.....Sorta like the Rev. Wright thing, remember..............................
But I guess it is ok to bring up what an Obama supporter said, but not Mccain...huh?
I know plenty about that part of the country. Well, I know enough to know that there isn't shit to flood out except for corn fields. New Orleans was and is a major metro area. There isn't one major metro area in the country that, if destroyed by a natural disaster to the extent that New Orleans was, that wouldn't cry out for help like they did. I know there isn't shit in Arkansas or where ever the hell you're at, but let's say Houston was flooded out. Can you wrap your brain and imagination around that? FEMA would be up to their ears in requests for help and they'd come from every demographic that exists there. The governments response to that was at best dispicable. I guess you don't remember the people living and dying in piles of their own shit in the Superdome.
Believe me, the farmers in the area have their hands out just like the Katrina victims did. Hell, they've been out for years. Check out how much they're subsidized by the FEDs. You wonder why your food cost so much? That's sure as hell one reason why.
By the way, Clown, watch Fox News. The first thing they talk about EVERYDAY is something to do with Obama's religion, race, wife, etc. EVERY DAMN DAY. I watch and read every bit of news I can get a hold of, and there are times when I'm watching that garbage and I say to myself, "Who in the hell believes in this crap?" So, to you, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reily, Laura Ingram, Ann Coulter, Michael Steele(black guy), Karl Rove, etc, I say, good luck peddling this garbage for the next 4 months. It won't fly.
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P.S. Is there a decent school anywhere near AR? I doubt it.
No actually, its the supporters of "Mccain" and the republican party/supporters who brings it up.....Sorta like the Rev. Wright thing, remember..............................
But I guess it is ok to bring up what an Obama supporter said, but not Mccain...huh?
yep o riley. and matter of fact. i think that sean hannity is talkign about it tonight.
they are the only ones that want to try and keep that fire going. well fox news in general
dont get me wrong. im a dem but im in the center. so i want fair and balanced newws. i can take watching ooriley more than i can keith olberman
but oriley gets alittle to right of the issues for me. so i flip between, hardball, race for the white house, oriley and hannity and colmes
you dont even know what african american is. it's not just someone with dark skin that lives in america. obama is of african descent... as in, 1 generation here in the US. african americans have american lineage.
I think I see where you are going with this and I do not believe it is a positive one. I will speculate and it is only speculation as I would "LOVE" to hear your rebuttal.
I believe you keep making references to his lineage to possibly say without saying an "African American MAN isn't doing it/making history/presidential candidate/, but rather some other type of black person doing it who really isn't of African AMERICAN descent. hmmmm, I kept reading and reading, but you never really made a point about it. You simply keep bringing it up without fighting for anything other than the fact he isn't "African American". Why go so hard when we all see a black man? What point are you trying to make about his lineage?
Help me to understand were you are trying to go with these comments?
I think I see where you are going with this and I do not believe it is a positive one. I will speculate and it is only speculation as I would "LOVE" to hear your rebuttal.
I believe you keep making references to his lineage to possibly say without saying an "African American MAN isn't doing it/making history/presidential candidate/, but rather some other type of black person doing it who really isn't of African AMERICAN descent. hmmmm, I kept reading and reading, but you never really made a point about it. You simply keep bringing it up without fighting for anything other than the fact he isn't "African American". Why go so hard when we all see a black man? What point are you trying to make about his lineage?
Help me to understand were you are trying to go with these comments?
thank you brikk. i was giong to say the same thing. but the way some were talking wouldnt have understood what i was saying
it seems he and a few others are saying that.
basically saying that he wasnt that black so therefore the glory cant go to us blacks that we have a black person in office. FINALLY
but thats also what i was hearing in their underlying message-with everything they were saying
240 I get you man. I actually think the rest get it too, but they just want to continue with the argument.
Hell, I could be 3/4 white but if I look Asian then to everyone else I'm Asian. But... it works both ways, i.e. Tiger Woods. He's less black and more Asian, but yet the black community continues to say that he's just "black". It's a two sided sword. It can be good and bad, but mostly bad since it's all about sterotyping and generalizing people.
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240 I get you man. I actually think the rest get it too, but they just want to continue with the argument.
Hell, I could be 3/4 white but if I look Asian then to everyone else I'm Asian. But... it works both ways, i.e. Tiger Woods. He's less black and more Asian, but yet the black community continues to say that he's just "black". It's a two sided sword. It can be good and bad, but mostly bad since it's all about sterotyping and generalizing people.
the white community says hes black as well. remember at the masters dinner the racist comment made about tiger must wanting them to serve friend chicken and collard greens
hes just been accepted since hes not going anywhere
I think I see where you are going with this and I do not believe it is a positive one. I will speculate and it is only speculation as I would "LOVE" to hear your rebuttal.
I believe you keep making references to his lineage to possibly say without saying an "African American MAN isn't doing it/making history/presidential candidate/, but rather some other type of black person doing it who really isn't of African AMERICAN descent. hmmmm, I kept reading and reading, but you never really made a point about it. You simply keep bringing it up without fighting for anything other than the fact he isn't "African American". Why go so hard when we all see a black man? What point are you trying to make about his lineage?
Help me to understand were you are trying to go with these comments?
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Originally Posted by 240ka
thank you brikk. i was giong to say the same thing. but the way some were talking wouldnt have understood what i was saying
it seems he and a few others are saying that.
basically saying that he wasnt that black so therefore the glory cant go to us blacks that we have a black person in office. FINALLY
but thats also what i was hearing in their underlying message-with everything they were saying
lol wtf? you guys really took that and ran with it, huh? i was simply rebutting 240's constant claims that obama should be considered black. i don't get that. he's just as white as he is black. i wasn't trying to take anything away from any race, nor give anything to any race. he's a person for God's sake, what does it matter? does it make you (240) any better of a person because he's black and you're black? sounds like you have some self-esteem and race issues, bud.
240 was the one that was so adiment that obama should be judged on the way he looked (dark skin = african american?) which IMO is the basis of ignorance and racism. some of us were throwing out facts about his family and upbringing just to prove a point that fell on deaf ears.
as far as what i was saying about obama's lineage was more for the sake of argument than anything. it has nothing to do with his canidacy. it's just a fact. to most educated people, obama would be half african (dad is kenyan) and half white. african american and african are not the same. you might consider him african american, but i don't. can i have my opinion? if you take that as me insulting the african american race, you have some deep seeded issues and i hope you seek counseling. some ppl look so deeply into what white people say for some hint of racism. i don't get it. i don't have time for all that.
lol wtf? you guys really took that and ran with it, huh? i was simply rebutting 240's constant claims that obama should be considered black. i don't get that. he's just as white as he is black. i wasn't trying to take anything away from any race, nor give anything to any race. he's a person for God's sake, what does it matter? does it make you (240) any better of a person because he's black and you're black? sounds like you have some self-esteem and race issues, bud.
240 was the one that was so adiment that obama should be judged on the way he looked (dark skin = african american?) which IMO is the basis of ignorance and racism. some of us were throwing out facts about his family and upbringing just to prove a point that fell on deaf ears.
as far as what i was saying about obama's lineage was more for the sake of argument than anything. it has nothing to do with his canidacy. it's just a fact. to most educated people, obama would be half african (dad is kenyan) and half white. african american and african are not the same. you might consider him african american, but i don't. can i have my opinion? if you take that as me insulting the african american race, you have some deep seeded issues and i hope you seek counseling. some ppl look so deeply into what white people say for some hint of racism. i don't get it. i don't have time for all that.
you were wrong either way you try and say it.
750. there is no considering about it. he is BLACK. hes not arab.
he looks black. is black. and as said before. everyone else says he's black b/c he is
and the undertone did sound that way to me. not just from you but a couple others arguing the same thing as you were
tiger woods had to be accepted in golf b/c they couldnt push him out. he's too good, the best golfer in history soon to be. they would have rather not have a blacck asian guy or asian black guy in a golf. which is a white sport
tiger woods had to be accepted in golf b/c they couldnt push him out. he's too good, the best golfer in history soon to be. they would have rather not have a blacck asian guy or asian black guy in a golf. which is a white sport
where do you get this? tiger is most white people i know's favorite golfer. no one wants him out because he's not white. ridiculous. i'm not trying to be funny, but it really does sound like you have some social disorders. like i have been telling you, please read that excerpt from obama's speech on race that i posted earlier. he's talking about you!
where do you get this? tiger is most white people i know's favorite golfer. no one wants him out because he's not white. ridiculous. i'm not trying to be funny, but it really does sound like you have some social disorders. like i have been telling you, please read that excerpt from obama's speech on race that i posted earlier. he's talking about you!
bro i said in the begining. tallking to you is like speaking to a brick wall. why do you think i used the story of the racist comments made when he won his first masters.
meaning in the begining. of course he's accepted now. hes now transcended color
lol wtf? you guys really took that and ran with it, huh? i was simply rebutting 240's constant claims that obama should be considered black. i don't get that. he's just as white as he is black. i wasn't trying to take anything away from any race, nor give anything to any race. he's a person for God's sake, what does it matter? does it make you (240) any better of a person because he's black and you're black? sounds like you have some self-esteem and race issues, bud.
240 was the one that was so adiment that obama should be judged on the way he looked (dark skin = african american?) which IMO is the basis of ignorance and racism. some of us were throwing out facts about his family and upbringing just to prove a point that fell on deaf ears.
as far as what i was saying about obama's lineage was more for the sake of argument than anything. it has nothing to do with his canidacy. it's just a fact. to most educated people, obama would be half african (dad is kenyan) and half white. african american and african are not the same. you might consider him african american, but i don't. can i have my opinion? if you take that as me insulting the african american race, you have some deep seeded issues and i hope you seek counseling. some ppl look so deeply into what white people say for some hint of racism. i don't get it. i don't have time for all that.
This African American vs black thing is hilarious....especially when coming from people that aren't black. African American is some politically correct term someone came up with to refer to black people. When I go to my family reunions, I see black people, not African Americans. If you want to call us that, fine. However, most people who are truly educated as to what the lineage is of most black people in this country, know that for the most part, most blacks can't trace their lineage like most whites can. We were treated as sub-humans at one point. Those things for sure weren't tracked. I looked. My shit for sure isn't listed at Ellis Island in NY. People of color aren't just from Africa. 'Sorry to burst your politically correct bubble.
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This African American vs black thing is hilarious....especially when coming from people that aren't black. African American is some politically correct term someone came up with to refer to black people. When I go to my family reunions, I see black people, not African Americans. If you want to call us that, fine. However, most people who are truly educated as to what the lineage is of most black people in this country, know that for the most part, most blacks can't trace their lineage like most whites can. We were treated as sub-humans at one point. Those things for sure weren't tracked. I looked. My shit for sure isn't listed at Ellis Island in NY. People of color aren't just from Africa. 'Sorry to burst your politically correct bubble.
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sub-humans? shit we were seen and treat as animals. they saw no human in us. cattle were valued more than us haha
agreed thats why i say im BLACK.
my parents from from africa, neither are my grand or great grand. yes we are of african decent but like you said we are black. unless our roots are close to africa. and i mean no more than two generations close
whites love to talk on the issue and have no idea what they are talking about so they like to trivialize out struggles.
i mean look at how they view Obamas wifes. as angry. shit most blacks feel the way she does. including me. I am TRULY proud of my country for the first time. they are willing to vote for a black person to be president. thats a huge deal.
whites like to think that our perspective of this conutry and the way we came through it is the same as theirs. and that we are wrong if we dont share their views.
so they label us unpatriotic.
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and hannity's fav lines are "we are all americans" yeah we are all americans but the biggest difference is that we arent and havent been treated anywhere close to the same
so the tag line "we are all americans" is nothing more than a way to trivialize our feelings and views of this country as not being patriototic b/c we see the US from a totally different view from whites
