I'm calling BS on this.
Tax collections have been at all time high levels after the tax cuts, problem is they were spending the money like it was going out of style.
Unemployment has hit some of the lowest points in recent history. The current unemployment rate back around the Carter days was considered FULL EMPLOYMENT.
Surprised no one has brought up Carter yet and all the "good" he did, mortgages interest in the teens, hostage situation...
then maybe you need to watch the news more. b/c the new high unemployment rate was just spoken on this weekend.
and the tax cuts are going to the big money makers the people who dont need the tax cuts. the middle class is who need the cuts. we are the ones being squeezed. last time i checked majority of americans income was in the middle or below.
...and the tax cuts are going to the big money makers the people who dont need the tax cuts. the middle class is who need the cuts. we are the ones being squeezed. last time i checked majority of americans income was in the middle or below.
Who pays taxes? percentages based on earnings
Bottom 40% received money BACK from the government
Half of those who filed paid 97% of the bill
top 10% paid 70% of the taxes
top 1% paid 40% of the taxes
Bush tax cuts did cut taxes for the "evil" rich, they were also cut MORE in the lower brackets.
McCain isn't sharp enough, in my opinion, not to be a puppet of his handlers.
Obama is something of a wildcard, but he's certainly not status quo. I like that. There are however policies of his that I don't care for in the least.
Color me undecided.
One note on the oil drilling. Why would you want to drill locally and use up what we have now? I'd be inclined to suck all other sources dry first as to not give them undue leverage over us in 20 years. I.E. when the wells go dry I'd like us to be in control of what wells are left.
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I'm calling BS on this.
Tax collections have been at all time high levels after the tax cuts, problem is they were spending the money like it was going out of style.
Unemployment has hit some of the lowest points in recent history. The current unemployment rate back around the Carter days was considered FULL EMPLOYMENT.
Surprised no one has brought up Carter yet and all the "good" he did, mortgages interest in the teens, hostage situation...
Okay. Fine. Carter was a bad president. He was the worst president for some. He shouldn't have been president (had Ford not pardoned Nixon, Ford would have been president).
But Carter served between 1977 and 1981. That's 27 years ago. Bush is still in the white house and has served 2 terms! What is your relevance? Why point fingers at Carter who was last in office when beta machines and 8 tracks were still in use? It seems as though if someone says, "Bush is the worst President by far . . . " Someone always has to make a sound bite of Carter, as if the previous poor choice of a democratic president makes up for the current bad choice of a republican president. It doesn't! Bush is now and he's still in office. If we don't like it, put his feet to the fire. What's wrong for asking impeachment or petitioning your local congressman for change? It's not like you can undo any of Carter's administrative policies.
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Last edited by gammawolf : 06-10-2008 at 05:28 PM.
The reason Carter is relevant is that administrations policies were in place when Reagan took office. The Reagan "tax cuts produce more income than tax increase" theory is the same reason the Bush tax cuts worked.
Not trying to smash the dems here, but I do not agree with their economic policies as a whole. You can pick and choose your way through them and find good. The same can be said for the repubs. I by no means agree with their "spend it if you got it" policy that has been the norm since...well to damn long.
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Okay. Fine. Carter was a bad president. He was the worst president for some. He shouldn't have been president (had Ford not pardoned Nixon, Ford would have been president).
But Carter served between 1977 and 1981. That's 27 years ago. Bush is still in the white house and has served 2 terms! What is your relevance? Why point fingers at Carter who was last in office when beta machines and 8 tracks were still in use? It seems as though if someone says, "Bush is the worst President by far . . . " Someone always has to make a sound bite of Carter as if the previous poor choice of a democratic president makes up for the current bad choice of a republican president. It doesn't! Bush is now and he's still in office. If we don't like it, put his feet to the fire. What's wrong for asking impeachment or petitioning your local congressman for change? It's not like you can undo any of Carter's administrative policies.
carter wasnt a very effective pres. but wasnt nearly the worst.
bush has now surpassed the worst president in history which was Hoover. Now bush is the worst. who would have thought Hoover would have been out done. nice accomplishment Bush
we are in a type of depression. history will mos def be the judge of that
Okay. Fine. Carter was a bad president. He was the worst president for some. He shouldn't have been president (had Ford not pardoned Nixon, Ford would have been president).
But Carter served between 1977 and 1981. That's 27 years ago. Bush is still in the white house and has served 2 terms! What is your relevance? Why point fingers at Carter who was last in office when beta machines and 8 tracks were still in use? It seems as though if someone says, "Bush is the worst President by far . . . " Someone always has to make a sound bite of Carter as if the previous poor choice of a democratic president makes up for the current bad choice of a republican president. It doesn't! Bush is now and he's still in office. If we don't like it, put his feet to the fire. What's wrong for asking impeachment or petitioning your local congressman for change? It's not like you can undo any of Carter's administrative policies.
If the point is worst President, then you consider them all. If you say best President you consider them all. None of them gets a free pass Gamma. It's debateable which is worse, Carter or Dubyah.
Personally I think Carter was horrible as a President. He's off the charts as a current ambassador and negotiator though. I think Carter could talk the Devil (Dizz) into realizing the Pizztons suck donkey ballz.
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Do I trust Obama? Does it matter? Are you naive? The obvious question is which presidential candidate has been entirely trustworthy in recent memory?
But a better question would be what can any presidential candidate do to bring any form of credibility back to the white house, restore prosperity in the nation and establish peace?
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Bush is leaving the white house in shambles. Who - regardless of party - can clean up his mess?
obama talks about running a presidency that goes against everything that bush stands for. he talks about change, but yet, he doesn't say what the hell he means by "change".
change can mean anything. at least mccain talks about resolving bush's mistakes, not "change".
McCain isn't sharp enough, in my opinion, not to be a puppet of his handlers.
Obama is something of a wildcard, but he's certainly not status quo. I like that. There are however policies of his that I don't care for in the least.
Color me undecided.
One note on the oil drilling. Why would you want to drill locally and use up what we have now? I'd be inclined to suck all other sources dry first as to not give them undue leverage over us in 20 years. I.E. when the wells go dry I'd like us to be in control of what wells are left.
drilling now will ease the pain at the gas pumps. 20 years from now, if we are still fully dependent on oil, then we should be ashamed of ourselves.
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