.............Oklahoma recently passed a similar bill, "HB 1804". Took effect Nov, 1 2007. It was all over the news that this or that would shut down due to lack of labor. All I heard about was a longer than normal wait at McDonalds, life was rough...
Guess what so far it seems to have worked, there are numerous reports stating the illegal population has decreased since it took effect. Kinda feel sorry for neighboring states, except Missouri, I think they already have a similar law.
Do you guys ship Texans back to Texas?
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"A young Muslim woman said she and another woman were refused seats directly behind Barack Obama — and in front of TV cameras — at a Detroit rally because they wear head scarfs."
PoorMan, I remember something similair happening at a college in NC a few months back. A girl said herself & a friend were put on stage before a speech. Michele didn't like it because all black would show up on the cameras & was moving them & giving their seat to whites.
Read in Greenwood Index Journal. On Fathers Day, in a Chiago Church, Obama preached about the responsibilities of fatherhood. From what I see he practices what he preaches in this matter.
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I agree with more of the republican ideas (sadly the actions of most 'republicans' are more in line with the traditional democratic ideas) than the democrats ideas, but I'm an independent.
IMO social security as it stands now should be opt out. I have considerably more faith in my ability to invest money for my retirement and actually have something to fall back on than I do the government's no matter which party is in control. I wave good-bye to the money deducted from my paycheck for social security because I have 0 expectations of ever seeing any of it back again.
I agree with more of the republican ideas (sadly the actions of most 'republicans' are more in line with the traditional democratic ideas) than the democrats ideas, but I'm an independent.
IMO social security as it stands now should be opt out. I have considerably more faith in my ability to invest money for my retirement and actually have something to fall back on than I do the government's no matter which party is in control. I wave good-bye to the money deducted from my paycheck for social security because I have 0 expectations of ever seeing any of it back again.
Ok, just asking, I am too...though I tend to line demo on issues.
I agree, I would rather have that money back and invest..
I agree with more of the republican ideas (sadly the actions of most 'republicans' are more in line with the traditional democratic ideas) than the democrats ideas, but I'm an independent.
IMO social security as it stands now should be opt out. I have considerably more faith in my ability to invest money for my retirement and actually have something to fall back on than I do the government's no matter which party is in control. I wave good-bye to the money deducted from my paycheck for social security because I have 0 expectations of ever seeing any of it back again.
Glad i'm not the only one that does this.
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240... You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to race and culture. You name like every race in the book to describe where you come from... Where was your mother and father born and where did they grow up? I can put my family tree down and i can put german in my roots but im not about to say im hispanic german.
Now as to what you say about blacks not getting jobs mowing grass... HA... how long did u say you lived in south florida? Low class blacks arent even looking to better themselves thanks to welfare... OH and who thought of welfare? A Democrat. So shut the fuck up about blacks not wanting to degrade themselves when they already do without much effort. At least hispanics are working and come here for a better life. Blacks not doing much other than throwing the race card around and complaing about how the white man takes everything from them when white people are doing more for the black community than they are for the white community.
Now as for all these other people talking about who Bush took us into war and are crying about how the troops arent doing anything over there... go to fucking hell... Those young men and women signed up to be in the military because they have pride for this country and would be hurt to hear that you think they arent doing shit. The are helping a hell of alot over there... just think of what would happen if we brought home our troops. A war would break out in the middle east and then they would blame the Americans for leaving them. Even worse they could bring on another attack on America and then we would be in deep shit because that means a draft which means you fuckers would be shipped off. So have a little more respect for the men and women fighting for you.
Also every DECLARED war... the problem wasnt even with Americans... and who put us into War.... Democrats. WWI... democrat pres. WWII.. again democrat pres. Cold War... Democrat pres. No one seems to object to those wars but when it comes to Bush everyone has shit to say.
Obama is full of shit ... He says he is gonna change the world... Well golly gee thanks Obama. He speeches remind me of a Miss America pagent. McCain atleast knows the system and knows enough to run the country. Answer me this would you want a Doctor who just graduated med school to preform open heart surgery on you or do you want the older man that has done enough surgeries that he can do them with his eyes closed? Same goes for president. If another 9/11 were to happen (God Forbid) Obama wouldnt know what the fuck to do. He never fought for this country and by the way he shrugged off his church what makes me think he isnt going to want to turn his back on America? McCain however was in the military which only shows how much he cares about this country and his pride for it.
And for those of you posting from moring to night... what do you do for a living other than talk shit on a forum? Only if you have a REAL job then you can talk about the economy and government.
240... You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about when it comes to race and culture. You name like every race in the book to describe where you come from... Where was your mother and father born and where did they grow up? I can put my family tree down and i can put german in my roots but im not about to say im hispanic german.
Now as to what you say about blacks not getting jobs mowing grass... HA... how long did u say you lived in south florida? Low class blacks arent even looking to better themselves thanks to welfare... OH and who thought of welfare? A Democrat. So shut the fuck up about blacks not wanting to degrade themselves when they already do without much effort. At least hispanics are working and come here for a better life. Blacks not doing much other than throwing the race card around and complaing about how the white man takes everything from them when white people are doing more for the black community than they are for the white community.
Now as for all these other people talking about who Bush took us into war and are crying about how the troops arent doing anything over there... go to fucking hell... Those young men and women signed up to be in the military because they have pride for this country and would be hurt to hear that you think they arent doing shit. The are helping a hell of alot over there... just think of what would happen if we brought home our troops. A war would break out in the middle east and then they would blame the Americans for leaving them. Even worse they could bring on another attack on America and then we would be in deep shit because that means a draft which means you fuckers would be shipped off. So have a little more respect for the men and women fighting for you.
Also every DECLARED war... the problem wasnt even with Americans... and who put us into War.... Democrats. WWI... democrat pres. WWII.. again democrat pres. Cold War... Democrat pres. No one seems to object to those wars but when it comes to Bush everyone has shit to say.
Obama is full of shit ... He says he is gonna change the world... Well golly gee thanks Obama. He speeches remind me of a Miss America pagent. McCain atleast knows the system and knows enough to run the country. Answer me this would you want a Doctor who just graduated med school to preform open heart surgery on you or do you want the older man that has done enough surgeries that he can do them with his eyes closed? Same goes for president. If another 9/11 were to happen (God Forbid) Obama wouldnt know what the fuck to do. He never fought for this country and by the way he shrugged off his church what makes me think he isnt going to want to turn his back on America? McCain however was in the military which only shows how much he cares about this country and his pride for it.
And for those of you posting from moring to night... what do you do for a living other than talk shit on a forum? Only if you have a REAL job then you can talk about the economy and government.
well, first welcome, LOL
Good, points but I will break out only a few of your points.
We all know 240 “goes” hard, but I think you made his point, lol. I believe he was arguing the point about blood lines while everyone pointed to specifics - African American, Arab American when he wanted to just simplify it.....
Race card, hmmm: I wouldn't doubt that. If you eliminate racism you will see the race card vanish. Problem is, that's basically impossible because every race will have racist people ( I could go into details if you like).
You are right, a democrat did bring about welfare, what in the fuck do I care, I am not a democrat...Your making that point for what reason? We all shoot the shit on here and the people who draw the line in the sand are independents. I do not believe this was a demo vs republican conversation...
Men and women signed up to fight for the country, HELL no and I'll tell you that your majority wrong there. Home to the largest Navy base in the world, I'll tell you that most sign up because they had nothing else to do or it was the best thing for them to do. There are without a doubt people who sign up for the pride of country, I am just saying they are few and far between (Most want the education….GI bill)..Then you have the hybrid of the two.
I think 240's point this whole time has been that racism is based solely on appearance and not on actual lineage/heritage, I have to agree with him since I have been on the other side of the issue, I was raised with some very racist grandparents and i know of the statements they made solely on appearnce
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Good, points but I will break out only a few of your points.
We all know 240 “goes” hard, but I think you made his point, lol. I believe he was arguing the point about blood lines while everyone pointed to specifics - African American, Arab American when he wanted to just simplify it.....
Race card, hmmm: I wouldn't doubt that. If you eliminate racism you will see the race card vanish. Problem is, that's basically impossible because every race will have racist people ( I could go into details if you like).
You are right, a democrat did bring about welfare, what in the fuck do I care, I am not a democrat...Your making that point for what reason? We all shoot the shit on here and the people who draw the line in the sand are independents. I do not believe this was a demo vs republican conversation...
Men and women signed up to fight for the country, HELL no and I'll tell you that your majority wrong there. Home to the largest Navy base in the world, I'll tell you that most sign up because they had nothing else to do or it was the best thing for them to do. There are without a doubt people who sign up for the pride of country, I am just saying they are few and far between (Most want the education….GI bill)..Then you have the hybrid of the two.
I brought up welfare because it has made many lower class citizens dependent on government funding and in Miami the majority of lower class citizens are either hispanic or Afro-American. 240 was saying the blacks were not taking the crop field jobs but i also dont see them bettering them selves (im talking about in miami... im sure the rest of the country is different)
and i threw in the democrat thing because i just want to side comment since i am republican and i saw alot of bashing on repubs so i took the opportunity to throw that in there lol
I agree with you the alot of the men and women signing up do it becuase they have to. ( i have 3 friends in the navy and 3 family member in the army, 2 of them went to Iraq) However after going throught boot camp and seeing what its like they have come out with a great respect for this country. I still think that those that are in Iraq would be deeply hurt if they new that their jobs werent appreciated.
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