I dont buy into it and dont believe in it. I know people that let it run their lives and thats just not for me. I got nothing out of it when I went to CCD and church. If it makes you happy, then I think thats great. It doesnt do anything for me. People thank God for everything all the time but I think its sad b/c people give credit to themselves less and less now-a-days. Why not chalk up your success to things you've accomplished instead of thanking God for everything hes given you a long the way??....like you had little to do with it.
no i completely understand.... and i'm beginning to think more along your lines....
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Religion is about Faith msb and science is about proof or proofs of subject matter.
right. so science has proof... you can see and touch it..
faith is just a bunch of stories that have been passed down for several years...
i remember in grade school.. they did that exercise with us... told the first person something and it keeps going down the line... and by the end its completely different....
well these religious stories have been told for thousands of years...
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Well, religion is really made by man, IMHO of course but having faith is something that you just have or don't have I guess. I do have faith that there is a God because without a higher being I really don't think the big bang and our universe is possible.
Well, religion is really made by man, IMHO of course but having faith is something that you just have or don't have I guess. I do have faith that there is a God because without a higher being I really don't think the big bang and our universe is possible.
right. i think i believe there is "something"
i just don't know that he had a son that was nailed to a cross.. etc, etc...
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you guys think the big bang theory is crazy, you guys should hear what the theory is on how we obtained water here on earth.
according to our genius scientists, the earth was bombarded by an infinite amount of meteors carrying water, and they filled our oceans with the stuff we see today.
um... what?!?!?!?!?
i believe in God, because I believe in no coincidences. the world is too amazing and has so many variables that tie in together so amazingly that it is beyond comprehension how it could've all been just by chance. furthermore, I am a scientists. I am a physics nerd, and I know many of the modern physics theories that are mind blowing beyond understanding. such as string theory and parallel universes. in my eyes, parallel universes might be the 4th dimension we're looking for when we enter the kingdom of heaven.
You guys, well some of you guys, are seriously wack'd. With a big D!
How can you say that religion is based on faith, something you can't see, feel or touch? Then in the same paragraph say that you believe in science for exactly the opposite reasons. Do you really think everything in science can be seen, felt and touched? How in the world do you "know" that two plus two is four??? Do you even know what two is? I know this is more in line with philosophy, but you have be seriously closed minded if you think that everything in science is not based on a large measure of faith. Don't you have to believe that the Calculus they used to prove a theory is true? I've taken every damn math class there is and I know how it works, but I can't feel it, touch it or see it, can I? Sure, it seems like it good when someone is in front of the room teaching it to you, or should I say "preaching" it to you?
Everything in this world requires some modicum of faith. You can't say that when a scientist tells you that a bone is 2 thousand years old instead of 2 million years old based on carbon dating that you take it in without faith in something. Sure they can give you a book on carbon dating, but what is that really? Sure looks like a jumble of words some "guy" put together to justify something "he" wants you to believe to me, no???
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we don't even need to go in that deep.. just recall 14puta's infamous quote, "without humans there would still be science", well... if religion is all made up... then what is science? science is just as equally made up.
honestly, the more and more i learn mathematics and science, the more and more questions i have. to say that science proves there is no God or any statement of the sort, shows me that this person has never learned any science or math beyond their GED.
You guys, well some of you guys, are seriously wack'd. With a big D!
How can you say that religion is based on faith, something you can't see, feel or touch? Then in the same paragraph say that you believe in science for exactly the opposite reasons. Do you really think everything in science can be seen, felt and touched? How in the world do you "know" that two plus two is four??? Do you even know what two is? I know this is more in line with philosophy, but you have be seriously closed minded if you think that everything in science is not based on a large measure of faith. Don't you have to believe that the Calculus they used to prove a theory is true? I've taken every damn math class there is and I know how it works, but I can't feel it, touch it or see it, can I? Sure, it seems like it good when someone is in front of the room teaching it to you, or should I say "preaching" it to you?
Everything in this world requires some modicum of faith. You can't say that when a scientist tells you that a bone is 2 thousand years old instead of 2 million years old based on carbon dating that you take it in without faith in something. Sure they can give you a book on carbon dating, but what is that really? Sure looks like a jumble of words some "guy" put together to justify something "he" wants you to believe to me, no???
i see what you are trying to say, but i really don't agree...
you are talking about definitions.
i sort of see what you mean... but we can stil prove it. i can prove that if i take 1 apple and put it next to 1 more apple.. i now have 2 apples. maybe in some other galaxy they cont different but it would still be the same thing... it can still be proven.
as far as carbon dating and all those things... yeah i kinda question it.. but i dont really think its made up... i mean we do have pictures of things in space and otehr artifacts and there is very good reasoning behind it all and very good EVIDENCE.
there is no evidence of jesus or any of that... is there?
good try.. but i'm not buying your argument.
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i see what you are trying to say, but i really don't agree...
you are talking about definitions.
i sort of see what you mean... but we can stil prove it. i can prove that if i take 1 apple and put it next to 1 more apple.. i now have 2 apples. maybe in some other galaxy they cont different but it would still be the same thing... it can still be proven.
as far as carbon dating and all those things... yeah i kinda question it.. but i dont really think its made up... i mean we do have pictures of things in space and otehr artifacts and there is very good reasoning behind it all and very good EVIDENCE.
there is no evidence of jesus or any of that... is there?
good try.. but i'm not buying your argument.
Actually Mike, you've already bought hook, line and sinker. You just don't know it yet. It's something called common acceptance. Sure you can put one apple next to another apple call it two, but what if I called two four? Who is the individual who created the word two and labled it to represent the number two? Wait, that's if someone had defined it in the first place. Which, by the way, is the basis of all things science. Numbers! Everything you know to be science is man made or based on what a few men have defined, stated or theorized. How much more different any religion is that? The only difference is that science appeals to logic as opposed to emotion in reglion. Two different sides of the brain. Yet, they're basically the same thing. Something another individual has told you to be true.
All you're doing is comparmentalizing the two as seperate states of logic, yet, they're not. What are they? Simply? Something another human being has told you to be true. You easily believe one to be true without question, yet, you hold the other to be false? Why? The human brain is a mysterious object and scientists haven't even scratched the surface of understanding how it all works. Yeah, they can tell you how the universe came to be, yet they can't even explain how my brain works. But aren't they the same thing? All theory?
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Also, when my well being depends on it. I only follow what's called doctrine. Those who've got military experience will tell you what this is. Well...
Doctrine is theory proven in the battlefield. So in the military we do not opporate in the relm of theory. Let me remind you this.
Concept begats theories. Nothings been proven here. Just concepts organized into neat things called theories so it's more coherent and concise. None of this can become doctrine until proven. Since you can't physically prove that Pluto is X miles away from Earth it's still theory. Albeit, a commonly accepted theory, but still not phyically proven. So then the question leads is proof merely phyical proof? Or mathematical? But isn't math something human's, specifically an individual, creation?
In the military we do not opperate on the level of theories and hope is not a method! Only doctrine are precepts that are followed. This is why things tend to move so slowly in the military. This is commonly referred to as Red Tape.
As you can see, we can go around the roses all day long, but you must be clear. Theories by themselves have no inherent proof. This is why they're being changed almost daily and arguments exists as to which theories should be the "commonly" accepted versions. I'd argue that Christianity has less theories and more proofs than much of science.
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but you are STILL talking definitions..... i don't understand hwo the two can be confused... i'm not saying there's no God i'm just saing there's no PROOF.... it's just passed down stories... THATS IT.
there is proff of science.. science is proved daily.
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