What did he REALLY do wrong? You can't say it was "going out to Alaska" because you already stated that if he had lived of teh land for years and succeeded than that is fine. So going out there was not the mistake.. it was his passion and desire.
What was his mistake? Not understanding the stream there? Not knowing that when he crossed it .. the majority of the water was frozen and out of his site and would later make it impossible to cross? Would you have known? Was it the eating mistake? Would you have known that?
Fact is... he knew a lot of shit. And he got by much better than 90% of us ever could. His mistakes were not "obvious mistakes" but unfortunate things that the majority of people may have overlooked.
His mistake was not really knowing how to take care of himself in that environment.
"Would I have known that?" - no I would not have....thats why you dont see me out there trying to live off the land!
Unfortunately, he underestimated what he knew and what he could do and ultimately, he died for it.
IMO, a company's NUMBER ONE job... is to supply to the community. give people jobs, money, benefits, etc.
A company's number one goal/job/priority is to earn money for its owners, be they stockholders or private interest holders. Anything they give back to the community is ultimately tied to earning more money; whether it is by having a more educated work force or being thought of as 'good' so people more willingly spend money on their products.
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[qoute]IMO, a company's NUMBER ONE job... is to supply to the community. give people jobs, money, benefits, etc.
A company's number one goal/job/priority is to earn money for its owners, be they stockholders or private interest holders. Anything they give back to the community is ultimately tied to earning more money; whether it is by having a more educated work force or being thought of as 'good' so people more willingly spend money on their products.[/quote]
that's where i disagree... see i guess i'm an oddball like he was... i don't "buy" all of these things.... money ruins things... what can companys do with this money????? meanwhile people are homeless, starving, etc.
damn i wish i had more but i gotta leave the office and hit the gym... later.
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that's where i disagree... see i guess i'm an oddball like he was... i don't "buy" all of these things.... money ruins things... what can companys do with this money????? meanwhile people are homeless, starving, etc.
damn i wish i had more but i gotta leave the office and hit the gym... later.
People are homeless and starving largely because of their own choices, some when dealt a crap hand fold and give up rather than working past it.
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Well anyway....I bought the book, it does seem like an interesting story to me although I admit I know very little about the guy other than what I heard when the movie was released. Wanted to read it first before seeing the movie.
..........i agree that careers are a "20th century invention"... at least a lot of careers that people follow are... a lot of it is just corporate bullshit greed.... IMO, a company's NUMBER ONE job... is to supply to the community. give people jobs, money, benefits, etc. INSTEAD, the nickle and dime EVERYTHING.. they send jobs overseas and lay off their own. SHIT SHOULDNT BE THAT WAY. who cares if Microsoft has 100 billion million dollars --- WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT DO FOR ANYONE? how is that good for your own people? it's not.
Hhhhmmmmm...........sounds like communism.
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..............was he dumb? not really.. he went to Emory (which is hard to get into). Got pretty much straight A's... everyone he met said he was amazingly smart.. but not just book smart... he knew so much more about life than the average person his age.
i think he was a little bit "dumb" in his actions during his fateful trip... but that's a shame, IMO.
There's book smart and street smart.
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A company's number one goal/job/priority is to earn money for its owners, be they stockholders or private interest holders. Anything they give back to the community is ultimately tied to earning more money; whether it is by having a more educated work force or being thought of as 'good' so people more willingly spend money on their products.
that's where i disagree... see i guess i'm an oddball like he was... i don't "buy" all of these things.... money ruins things... what can companys do with this money????? meanwhile people are homeless, starving, etc.
damn i wish i had more but i gotta leave the office and hit the gym... later.
I'm OK with a more Socialist/Communist society, however it's been proven out that it doesn't work too well. Our system is flawed too, but it's better than the alternative.
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"COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and gives you part of the milk."
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you guys don't agree that there is a lot of "bad" in the world??
you don't think that the majority of corporations are "bad"?
all they care about is money... yeah they have to... but there needs to be a better mix.
back to the example of sending jobs overseas.... honestly, if you ask me.. it should ALMOST be illegal. i think it's horrible, but at the same time i don't think it's right for the govt to tell people how to do business and tell others what to do. but i do think it's very wrong... all for what? to save a buck? where does that extra money go??
so now that company has 15 million in their bank account instead of 13 million.... but they ruined 200 lives.
i know those numbers are way off... but you get the idea.... this is just one example of hundreds....
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A corporation that says it doesn't care just about money is lying or is on the path to being out of business. As I said earlier a company may do things that seem charitable and good for the community/country, but it's always done with an eye toward enhancing the bottom line. You stop caring about the bottom line, you stop existing. But hey what do I know, I'm just a business school graduate indoctrinated by the system.
The really funny thing about bitching about US companies out-sourcing to other countries is other countries do the exact same thing with us but noone complains then. A lot of Japan and Korea's car manufacturing is outsourced to the US and Eastern Europe because land is cheap and resources are easier to access. Some of those 'evil' Indian call centers that people love to mock? They're outsourcing to small towns in the upper midwest.
Would you rather a system like Europe's and Japan's where companies base their employment level not on projecting growth of business, but on recorded down periods because of employment laws making it difficult/impossible to fire someone once their hired as in Japan? Or where there is massive unemployment of the young (under 30-35) because they are viewed as untrustworthy and not reliable; which leads to rioting on a regular basis as in Europe?
The US' implementation of capitalism definitely creates winners and losers, but that is what makes it so great. ANYONE if they are willing to do some hard work and learn from setbacks can be a winner.
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i just don't buy into "the way everything is"... i think everyone has such a false sense of security.... one morning we could wake up and big business won't matter... laws won't matter.... a million different things could happen to bring us back to a much older lifestyle and it would be human vs. human... and noone would know what to do.
i've probably just watched too many movies.
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i just don't buy into "the way everything is"... i think everyone has such a false sense of security.... one morning we could wake up and big business won't matter... laws won't matter.... a million different things could happen to bring us back to a much older lifestyle and it would be human vs. human... and noone would know what to do.
i've probably just watched too many movies.
Spend some time out in the mid-west and south away from the big cities. You'll meet plenty of people who would make it if our economic system were to shitcan; most of them you'd probably think of as hicks, hillbillies and rednecks. You are right to an extent though, people who know nothing other than city life would be clueless as to surviving.
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you guys don't agree that there is a lot of "bad" in the world??
you don't think that the majority of corporations are "bad"?
all they care about is money... yeah they have to... but there needs to be a better mix.
back to the example of sending jobs overseas.... honestly, if you ask me.. it should ALMOST be illegal. i think it's horrible, but at the same time i don't think it's right for the govt to tell people how to do business and tell others what to do. but i do think it's very wrong... all for what? to save a buck? where does that extra money go??
so now that company has 15 million in their bank account instead of 13 million.... but they ruined 200 lives.
i know those numbers are way off... but you get the idea.... this is just one example of hundreds....
I agree that there's a lot of bad in the world. It is IMHO a matter of human nature. It always has been and always will be. Corruption exists in every facet of life and Communist society is no exception. While in theory Communism works, in practice it doesn't because there is always some jackass who refuses to work and sponges off society. In Communism there is no incentive to work hard, in capilatism there is. The harder you work the more potential you have to get ahead (both financially and career wise).
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i just don't buy into "the way everything is"... i think everyone has such a false sense of security.... one morning we could wake up and big business won't matter... laws won't matter.... a million different things could happen to bring us back to a much older lifestyle and it would be human vs. human... and noone would know what to do.
i've probably just watched too many movies.
If the zombies come or mobs, I can rest assured that I'm further ahead than 99% of the population. I do need a sword though because you can always run out of bullets..........
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