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Old 02-22-2008, 10:43 AM   #31 (permalink)
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That's a good one, I'm as to the right as right can be on gun control.
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:24 AM   #32 (permalink)
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^^^i'm way out to the right on that too
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:12 AM   #33 (permalink)
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You got any substance to support that with or are you just regurgitating buzz words that some republican poilitical assassin fed you?

I'm sure you'll cite the National Journal "study".

In 2004 they called John Kerry the most liberal senator. Bush's campaign ran with that too. Coincidence? I think not.

well, would you at least agree on the fact that he is perhaps the most popular presidential candidate ever to have done absolutely nothing?
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:25 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Ron Paul!! but guess what, NPR: Nader Announces Run for President

This will help us keep Clinton out of office.
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Anyone see Hillary in the democractic debate on CNN? The bitoch was smirking all night wtf is she on?
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:02 AM   #36 (permalink)
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well, would you at least agree on the fact that he is perhaps the most popular presidential candidate ever to have done absolutely nothing?
Yes, but I'm also a fan of the old Thomas Paine quote:

"That government is best which governs least."
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Yes, but I'm also a fan of the old Thomas Paine quote:

"That government is best which governs least."
How does government heathcare meet that quote?

great quote though
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Socialized health care works great in some countries. (Countries who's tax structures would make you cry like a small child come April).

I actually think that the problem with health care stems from making the employer responsible for the coverage. The concept itself just begs to screw over the little guy. I think that it should more resemble auto insurance. There would be more competition and more individual options.

As far as care for the poor goes, I'd be inclined to let the individual states sort it out. At the very least it would be an incentive to maintain a strong local economy and keep unemployment low.

This is of course will never happen.
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Lawyers are the biggest problem with healthcare in the US. Malpractice insurance is crazy expensive due to all the past litigation and that cost gets passed down to the patient.
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One of the reasons why healthcare cost is off the roof in the USA.. Not because coverage is better, not because we have "advanced medical equipment", but because we just love to sue...

Shlt, even the medication cost more here in the US, but cost much less in Canada and Mexico? Even though the medications were made here in the FN USA? How is that possible? WTF is going on?

The cost of coverage is off the roof. Which is why Socialize Healthcare won't work here. It's going to take a huge chunk tax payers money.

If you don't know, we need to money to free Iraq, Iran, Syria and to keep our troops in S. Korea, Japan, Kososvo, Hawaii, Philiphines, and who knows where else.

We are a military state, and it's not going to change any time soon.

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Lawyers are the biggest problem with healthcare in the US. Malpractice insurance is crazy expensive due to all the past litigation and that cost gets passed down to the patient.
Definitely agree! Problem is you can't remove that from the equation all together because some do have a valid and ligitimate reasons to sue doctors and hospitals...speaking from experience.

There are plenty of frivolous suits that are f.u. it up for the rest of us.
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Assuming that our judicial system is half way functioning like it's supposed to...

The better question would be to ask how many of these, so called, firvelous law suits are successful, which in turn, would raise another question... why are our medical professionals so inept at their profession???
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Assuming that our judicial system is half way functioning like it's supposed to...

The better question would be to ask how many of these, so called, firvelous law suits are successful, which in turn, would raise another question... why are our medical professionals so inept at their profession???
It's not necessarily the sucess rate, but rather how you define success. It costs so much to defend yourself that many doctors and organizations just settle.
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It's not necessarily the sucess rate, but rather how you define success. It costs so much to defend yourself that many doctors and organizations just settle.
Ok, that's fair, but then that makes me wonder why people feel that they need to take their medical professionals to court so often. Could it be that they, the patients, have too high an expectation of what their doctors can do? Or could it be that doctors promise too much? Could it be the alarming rate of substance abuse by medical professionals? Just more questions and not many sufficient answers.
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