Am I the only one who feels a little sorry for Castro? I mean, I know the guy was a maniac, killed a lot of people, tortured hundreds, and had his ruthless streak. At the same time, I applaud his little guy mentality versus the great big country to the north that's tried to remove him over and over again. From his humble beginnings, the guy fought like a Lion and didn't bow down to American interests for decades.
I'm going to miss this bad guy, if he wasn't a communist, he could of been a great American politician in a different life.
I don't feel sorry for him at all. He ruined countless lives and a beautiful country. The estimates are in the 40-50k range of 'political prisoners' that he had executed...When he started out to overthrow Batista (who murdered almost as many people 20-30k range in his 7 year rule over the people) it was for the better of the country. Except Castro kept the murders going...There are over a million people who have risked their lives by escaping from his rule and that goes to show just how bad his rule has been...This is a guy who set up labor camps for people he thought were social deviants(ummm hello? Paging Hitler!!)
I will say that this guy had heart and fought for what he thought was right no matter what it cost his country or his people...but the same can be said for Hitler, Kim Jong Il, and Sadam Hussain....
Am I the only one who feels a little sorry for Castro? I mean, I know the guy was a maniac, killed a lot of people, tortured hundreds, and had his ruthless streak. At the same time, I applaud his little guy mentality versus the great big country to the north that's tried to remove him over and over again. From his humble beginnings, the guy fought like a Lion and didn't bow down to American interests for decades.
I'm going to miss this bad guy, if he wasn't a communist, he could of been a great American politician in a different life.
I don't feel sorry for dictators, especially those that oppress rather than use ultimate authority to make improvements for their people.
Gamma I think maybe you are romanticising Castro. His fight and those of all dictators is usually win or death. If he failed given the number of people he angered do you think he'd be allowed to live?
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Am I the only one who feels a little sorry for Castro? I mean, I know the guy was a maniac, killed a lot of people, tortured hundreds, and had his ruthless streak. At the same time, I applaud his little guy mentality versus the great big country to the north that's tried to remove him over and over again. From his humble beginnings, the guy fought like a Lion and didn't bow down to American interests for decades.
I'm going to miss this bad guy, if he wasn't a communist, he could of been a great American politician in a different life.
gamma, I'm surprised you could feel this way. IMHO, it's like me saying that I feel sorry for Hitler because he was a little guy who could. That he single handedly united a nation and brought that same nation out of utter poverty and made them into, not only, an industrial might, but also cooked a lot more people on the BBQ than any other nation has ever done. That if he was the CEO of Hooters we'd have one in every school accross the nation.
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I don't feel sorry for him at all. He ruined countless lives and a beautiful country. The estimates are in the 40-50k range of 'political prisoners' that he had executed...When he started out to overthrow Batista (who murdered almost as many people 20-30k range in his 7 year rule over the people) it was for the better of the country. Except Castro kept the murders going...There are over a million people who have risked their lives by escaping from his rule and that goes to show just how bad his rule has been...This is a guy who set up labor camps for people he thought were social deviants(ummm hello? Paging Hitler!!)
I will say that this guy had heart and fought for what he thought was right no matter what it cost his country or his people...but the same can be said for Hitler, Kim Jong Il, and Sadam Hussain....
I don't equate him with Hitler. Hitler was in a league of his own. Kim Jong or Saddam Hussein maybe.
But see the thing is, he's outlasted everyone of these guys. No dictator has lasted as long as Castro. Sure he's killed people, his own people, but if I wanted to be the devil's advocate, I could say the same thing about this country. Yes he setup labor camps for his people, but we have set up internment camps just the same.
Yes his people are impoverished, stuck in the stone age, and hundreds of thousands have fled his iron grip. I'm not clueless to that fact, but if I have to say one thing I like about the guy is that no matter what the U.S. did to have its way with the island of Cuba, Castro wouldn't have it. He was the big thorn in its side when the CIA was having its influence in Nicaragua, Panama, the middle east, etc. Not Cuba.
I guess I admire the guy's stubbornness and long lasting bad guy role. Think of it, of all the bad guys that have come and gone, he's still around. It's impressive.
Fidel Castro is the Cuban Tony Soprano. Tony Soprano is by no means a good guy. He's a criminal, he's a bastard, philanderer, etc. etc. etc. But you still root for the guy even though there's only 2 options for him jail or death.
Same thing. I know the guy is going straight to hell if there is one and he's made no apologies. But you know what, he's lasted forever despite the odds and now he gets to retire.
I don't equate him with Hitler. Hitler was in a league of his own. Kim Jong or Saddam Hussein maybe.
But see the thing is, he's outlasted everyone of these guys. No dictator has lasted as long as Castro. Sure he's killed people, his own people, but if I wanted to be the devil's advocate, I could say the same thing about this country. Yes he setup labor camps for his people, but we have set up internment camps just the same.
Yes his people are impoverished, stuck in the stone age, and hundreds of thousands have fled his iron grip. I'm not clueless to that fact, but if I have to say one thing I like about the guy is that no matter what the U.S. did to have its way with the island of Cuba, Castro wouldn't have it. He was the big thorn in its side when the CIA was having its influence in Nicaragua, Panama, the middle east, etc. Not Cuba.
I guess I admire the guy's stubbornness and long lasting bad guy role. Think of it, of all the bad guys that have come and gone, he's still around. It's impressive.
The only reason he has lasted as long as he has is because he did not try to destroy or invade another country. He is still in power today because he only stole from his country and people instead of getting too greedy and taking from another country. I would say that Cubas natural borders kept him in check in that case.
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Yes his people are impoverished, stuck in the stone age, and hundreds of thousands have fled his iron grip.
Even with all of this the man is still endearing to you just because he is stubborn? HA!
Ok, we do know that Tony Soprano is a fictional character right???
If you talk about lasting, sure he lasted, but that's only because he didn't cause a racous and because the USSR wouldn't allow us to harm them as their reputation was at stake. Otherwise, we'd have stomped on them just as we have the island nations surrounding Cuba. So I think he's been able to keep his position out of default. It's like the Deh Deh Deh kids always have a seat everywhere they go by default. You can't say that one of them Deh Deh Deh kids are super duper fast driver/parkers when they got a space by default right out in front of the Best Buys 24/7 can you?
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Am I the only one who feels a little sorry for Castro? I mean, I know the guy was a maniac, killed a lot of people, tortured hundreds, and had his ruthless streak. At the same time, I applaud his little guy mentality versus the great big country to the north that's tried to remove him over and over again. From his humble beginnings, the guy fought like a Lion and didn't bow down to American interests for decades.
I'm going to miss this bad guy, if he wasn't a communist, he could of been a great American politician in a different life.
i should slap for making such dumb comments.
so if a man becomes president of the US, we welcome him or her as an agent of change and prosperity. instead, he ruins the country, he ruins the economy, he is constantly chasing down and MURDERING people who say anything the wrong way at him. we are all forced to leave the US and become french citizens, you're going to tell me this person deserves ANY kind of sympathy??
i DARE you, I DARE YOU, go to little havana in miami and make such a moronic statement. i want to see how much of your body remains in one tact.
you know, at least hitler wanted germany to be a powerful nation. he was definitely out of his mind, but he wanted the best for his country.
castro is an egotistic asshole who cared about NO ONE else but himself. he didnt give a shit about his people. he was a rebel to supposely save his people from a harsh tyrant, yet, he turned around and betrayed all the idiots that followed him.
he executed countless people. if he could've created concentration camps, he would've done it. any one who sympathesizes with someone of this calibur of humanity is a sick human being themselves.
so if a man becomes president of the US, we welcome him or her as an agent of change and prosperity. instead, he ruins the country, he ruins the economy, he is constantly chasing down and MURDERING people who say anything the wrong way at him. we are all forced to leave the US and become french citizens, you're going to tell me this person deserves ANY kind of sympathy??
i DARE you, I DARE YOU, go to little havana in miami and make such a moronic statement. i want to see how much of your body remains in one tact.
Hell forget Little Havana Smoke. Go to any major city in FL and ask about the crime rate since the damn Cuban boat lift, in which, Castro basically emptied his jails/insane assilums/and the Deh Deh Deh schools so he can send them over here to us. He basically sent over the lowest of the low lives to our nation and what did they do??? They basically went on a crime wave that's still going on today. You really want to have sympathy for such a guy?
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you know, at least hitler wanted germany to be a powerful nation. he was definitely out of his mind, but he wanted the best for his country.
castro is an egotistic asshole who cared about NO ONE else but himself. he didnt give a shit about his people. he was a rebel to supposely save his people from a harsh tyrant, yet, he turned around and betrayed all the idiots that followed him.
he executed countless people. if he could've created concentration camps, he would've done it. any one who sympathesizes with someone of this calibur of humanity is a sick human being themselves.
umm he did create them sometime around 65'-67'ish. World leaders went apeshit so he 'closed' them down...
