^^^Like I said, Anti-depressants are not all that prevalent among these mass shooters. Although a good chunk of them were on it, and I'll believe that, what actually makes a person snap in the U.S. to decide to go on his own personal jihad?
You know the way we see terrorists grow up with resentment and hate against Americans and blow themselves up for a greater good? Is that so different from the way kids are brought up in a capitalistic society, where we love grabbin' our guns at the first sign of aggression and celebrate those who have used them well? Where the only way for the weak or the unmatched to succeed is to go out in a blaze of glory like the cowboys in the "Wild Bunch"?
Is there a difference? Why is it that mostly men do this?
I'm a gun owner, and I believe in the right to bear arms, so I'm just having a philosophical discussion here, but is there any difference between terrorists who take out innocent civilians in a bus or a market, and American kids and young adults who go on a shooting spree and then commit suicide?
I don't think it has much to do with guns and their use being celebrated, as that was done well before the proliferation of TVs and movies. Lack of discipline and responsibility is a factor; there's not much accountability in US society anymore, from the earliest stages of public education all the way to being the CEO of a Fortune 500.
Mostly men I would theorize because girls are brought up from an early age to play with dolls, kitchen sets, etc while until relatively recently it was still acceptable for young boys to play cops and robbers, cowboys and indians and similar with toy guns so there is some relative familiarity there already for males.
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I don't think it has much to do with guns and their use being celebrated, as that was done well before the proliferation of TVs and movies. Lack of discipline and responsibility is a factor; there's not much accountability in US society anymore, from the earliest stages of public education all the way to being the CEO of a Fortune 500.
Mostly men I would theorize because girls are brought up from an early age to play with dolls, kitchen sets, etc while until relatively recently it was still acceptable for young boys to play cops and robbers, cowboys and indians and similar with toy guns so there is some relative familiarity there already for males.
One could argue that its' the way guns have been marketed. When the west was one, an old saying was, ""God created men equal, Col. Colt made them equal..."
Whether its through cowboy western movies or vigilante type movies where hereos take the law into their own hands, we constantly hear these types of stories. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Lemme ask you Phelan? Do you sleep with your gun loaded in your bedroom?
I used to. Long time ago. But I used to live in a shitty neighborhood back then. Now I won't do it. Speed loader is loaded, but separate from my revolver. The odds are that most of us, especially if you are White, won't get broken into by some crazy lunatic.
When I went to Arizona, I couldn't believe how many people were just afraid and paranoid in their quite suburban neighborhoods. The odds and statistics show, that nothing is going to happen to them. They are more likely to die in a car accident than a shooting.
So why are we so quick to draw? I think it's our culture. We love our guns and it shows in our popular media.
Mags for the FAL are loaded but them and the FAL are stored in the gun cabinet (which is in my room). 2 mags for my XD are loaded with JHPs, but it again is stored primarily in the cabinet. I have started more often sleeping with my Kimber cocked and locked in a holster under the edge of my bed since getting my CHL.
Do I go to bed expecting to need it? No. But I'd rather unload and store it the morning (since I work in a state mandated victim disarmament zone), than be trying to get it out and loaded at night if it were needed.
You don't have to live in a crappy, ghetto neighborhood for STHTF. Sean Taylor's murder is a great example; at home in a fancy, seemingly safe, gated community.
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^^^yeah, but that example is weak. Many Black athletes have a tendency to move out of the hood, but keep acquaintances from the hood. They still have ties there and that thuggish lifestyle. It's stupid, but that's the truth.
I'm familiar with the "rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it "argument . That's why I'm a gun owner. But the older I get, the more I think that this country is a bit gun crazy for no good reason.
I'd like to mount a M2 (Ma Duece) on my front stoop. Forget the pee shooters. I'd like to see someone try to break into my house. I wish I could pick one up at the flea market. Anyone know of a good place? I mean, if I'm gonna break the nazi CA gun law I might as well do it in style.
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But it's not the only example, just the most recent high profile one. There's been plenty of cases of rich, white people who are from old money being killed in their homes which are in supposed safe, gated communities.
What exactly is 'gun crazy'? Owning a lot of guns? Going target shooting regularly? Hunting every duck/deer/turkey/bear season? Merely owning a gun?
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^^^I could perhaps be the definition of gun crazy. Owning a lot of guns, with stacks of ammo ready to reach for his gat and the drop of a hat. That's gun crazy. Like that dude in the movie Tremors.
Although I'm trying to change because I feel it is not necessary.
Does make you wonder, back before there was a pill for everything that ailed you; there wasn't such a prevalence to run out and shoot up a crowd of people. The mind and how it operates is still poorly understood, yet there's all these products on the market that attempt to alter it...
I don't subsribe to the Scientology answer that all drugs are bringing down society and the human race.
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You're starting to sound like the gun hating media who talk about 500 rounds of 9mm as if it's something to be shocked over. 500 rounds is maybe 2 range trips.
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Well I didn't mean it to be funny in that sense. Yeah, innocent people dying is never funny. Unless of course, it's one of them dumb kids doing wrestling moves on youtube.
It's always funny when stupid people die, it's making and improvement to the human race..........unless martians come down here and the only defense is the stupid gene.
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I don't subsribe to the Scientology answer that all drugs are bringing down society and the human race.
Neither do I, but I do worry about the increasing use of drugs designed to alter the state of one's mind when so little hard fact is known on how the brain and nervous system functions. Just a few years ago it was still thought nerve tissue didn't regrow, but new studies shows that it does depending upon the severity of the injury.
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