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Old 09-20-2007, 01:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Like I said in the Tila thread, to each his own red. I still don't see any proof of anything you claimed, just your opinion which is far from fact. But if that's what you need to use to justify you hating Oscar, more power to you.

GZ-Ray Mercer?? WTF??
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:02 PM   #32 (permalink)
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^^^Yeah red is saying that Oscar fixed fights. I don't know if that's true or not, but it is readily apparent that Mercer fixed fights (took dives).
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:16 PM   #33 (permalink)
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oscar is a class act, and one of the greatest boxers of all time. in his prime, he was unbeatable.

how could you say he fixed his fights, red

did you ever see the trinidad fight?????????????? that was the biggest bullshit decision i've ever seen. if you actually look at trinidad's reaction when he heard he won, he was shocked as a motherfucker.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:22 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I'd have to disagree with him being unbeatable in his prime (well maybe by the fighters of his time, but there have been better at his weights).
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:23 PM   #35 (permalink)
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after going over the pictures with some of my software, i must say that i'm very impressed with the quality of some of these chops. others, i could clearly make out that they're fake.


the person who made them has a lot of skill.
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Old 09-20-2007, 02:25 PM   #36 (permalink)
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^^^Like the John Travolta picks where he's sucking the tonsils out of a guy, these pics I believe to be real.
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I'd have to disagree with him being unbeatable in his prime (well maybe by the fighters of his time, but there have been better at his weights).


the middleweight division has been the most competitive division in boxing over the last 50 years. to say anyone dominated at any point is an acknowledgement of greatness on it's own. i cant think of any fighters other than sugar shane, sugar ray, and alexis arguello, who have been as dominant as DLH. even at that, there's no way to prove who is the best of all time.
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^^^Like the John Travolta picks where he's sucking the tonsils out of a guy, these pics I believe to be real.


unlike the gammagropercoyote pictures, these pictures are nothing more than a hater having too much time on his/her hands.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:11 PM   #39 (permalink)
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haha!! I knew sooner or later Smoke would give us his 2 cents in this thread. Good job smoke. I couldn't have said it any better myself. And I still have NEVER heard anyone give me a legit reason why they hate him. It's always either based on BS (like this thread) or straight up jealousy of the guy. Whether you like it or not, he will be looked at as one of the greatest fighters of our time.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:13 PM   #40 (permalink)
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oscar is a class act, and one of the greatest boxers of all time. in his prime, he was unbeatable.

how could you say he fixed his fights, red

did you ever see the trinidad fight?????????????? that was the biggest bullshit decision i've ever seen. if you actually look at trinidad's reaction when he heard he won, he was shocked as a motherfucker.
That's a great point and I actually forgot about that. The look on Trinidad's face told the whole story. He actually couldn't believe that he won. It was like a suprise to him.
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the middleweight division has been the most competitive division in boxing over the last 50 years. to say anyone dominated at any point is an acknowledgement of greatness on it's own. i cant think of any fighters other than sugar shane, sugar ray, and alexis arguello, who have been as dominant as DLH. even at that, there's no way to prove who is the best of all time.
I'll give you that the division is very competitive. Unfortunately I still can't see Oscar as being as good as Mosely and definitely not Ray. Boxing is about styles and opponents and unfortunately when he fights the good guys his heart is exposed.
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oscar is a class act, and one of the greatest boxers of all time. in his prime, he was unbeatable.

how could you say he fixed his fights, red

did you ever see the trinidad fight?????????????? that was the biggest bullshit decision i've ever seen. if you actually look at trinidad's reaction when he heard he won, he was shocked as a motherfucker.
Nothing can be worse than the gifts that Ray Leonard got at the end of his career.
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I'll give you that the division is very competitive. Unfortunately I still can't see Oscar as being as good as Mosely and definitely not Ray. Boxing is about styles and opponents and unfortunately when he fights the good guys his heart is exposed.
yea....like the fight he had with mayweather recently...he looked frustrated like he wanted to cry cuz he knew he was outmatched....
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haha!! I knew sooner or later Smoke would give us his 2 cents in this thread. Good job smoke. I couldn't have said it any better myself. And I still have NEVER heard anyone give me a legit reason why they hate him. It's always either based on BS (like this thread) or straight up jealousy of the guy. Whether you like it or not, he will be looked at as one of the greatest fighters of our time.

Hexx ask your momma (when she is driving you around tomorrow morning) about this issue.

Tell her exactly what I told you about Oscar dedicating the medal to his mom, then later retracting it and dedicating it to his manager. Ask her what she would think if you did that to her.

Please tell us what she said (I say tell because you can't reach through the screen and twist our ears like she is going to do to you).
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yea....like the fight he had with mayweather recently...he looked frustrated like he wanted to cry cuz he knew he was outmatched....
WTF??? Where we watching the same fight?? Mayweather was talking all this shit about how he was going to destroy Oscar and knock him out and all he did was run the whole fight! He didn't outmatch Oscar, he outran Oscar.
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