I doubt that their operations will be suspended permanently. Most of those guys are actually ex-special forces personnel and they are very good at what they do.
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I doubt that their operations will be suspended permanently. Most of those guys are actually ex-special forces personnel and they are very good at what they do.
That was the case back a few years ago roneski. There aren't that many members within the SF community and sure not enough to go around to the military and then to these types of organizations. Many new recruits of PCS's aren't of SF origins and they've already begun taking individuals with less than honorable and dishonorable discharges amongst their mist.
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While I understand the desire to recall these guys, they are still filling a need from private companies/individuals. It's pretty tough to tell them the guys keeping them alive need to be pulled out.
I hear Zooms issues too, the lack of controls on these guys reflects on our military and country.
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Now I'm just laid bad - G35Princess
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1. Kills his own countrymen (through gas and other means),
2. Kills his own family,
3. Invades his neighbors for access to shipping,
4. Kills off his political adversaries,
5. Is stupid enough to routinely shoot off guns into the air in the city,
6. Inquires about production of the largest gun in the world (as a delivery system for his weapons),
7. Shoots missiles into a non combatent country,
8. Seeks nuclear potential as far back as the 80's,
9. ETC.........
Is now not in the world anymore. Hitler used the same lines as this turd back in the 30's............it's all someone else's fault for your problems, follow me I will lead you to greatness, blah, blah, blah..........
It's not popular, but I'd rather there's one less Hitler in the world and us being unpopular than the alternative.
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Now I'm just laid bad - G35Princess
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1. Kills his own countrymen (through gas and other means) (by weapons supplied by us no less. and if we are that concerned, how come we didn't check Pinochet (Argentina), Omar al-Bashir (Sudan), King Jong (Korea), or Idi Amin while he was alive? Those guys killed thousands of their own people. Omar killed hundredsd of thousands and so did Amin.
2. Kills his own family, (i don't care about that. you're right when you say he was a madman, but that should be dealt with within his own country.)
3. Invades his neighbors for access to shipping (it was when he got to Kuwait and had very close access to oil reserves in Saudi Arabia that our "allies" in Saudi Arabia sent out a call to us.)
4. Kills off his political adversaries, (he's a dictator that we put in power, what do you expect?)
5. Is stupid enough to routinely shoot off guns into the air in the city, (petty)
6. Inquires about production of the largest gun in the world (as a delivery system for his weapons), (but never got the WMD's as claimed by the U.S., a crime nevertheless, but shouldn't the UN take care of it?)
7. Shoots missiles into a non combatant country, (once again, this is a UN resolution)
8. Seeks nuclear potential as far back as the 80's, (sought it, but didn't gain anything. and in the 80's Iraq was our Ally. Rumsfeld shook hands with him.)
Is now not in the world anymore. Hitler used the same lines as this turd back in the 30's............it's all someone else's fault for your problems, follow me I will lead you to greatness, blah, blah, blah..........
It's not popular, but I'd rather there's one less Hitler in the world and us being unpopular than the alternative.
Your use of Hitler astounds me. Yes he was a tyrant and rule with an imperial fist, and I don't miss him. But going to war twice and not accomplishing anything both times bothers me.
Gamma the UN is nothing put sniveling whiners that pass meaningless resolutions. How many resolutions against Iraq were needed to be passed before they were going to actually take some action?
Its just like with a child, you can tell them 'no' a thousand times, but until you actually punish them for doing the action they are not going to stop.
And with the rampant corruption in the UN oversight of Iraq why should they have been trusted? Not much food made it to the people in their much ballyhooed Food for Oil program, yet a lot of money made it to Saddam and hire regime through it. Where did most of that money come from? France, Germany and Russia... The same ones who opposed an end to Saddam's rule.
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Everyone is finally equal. No one is smarter than anyone else. No one is stronger than anyone else. No one is better. Everyone is worse.
So again, I ask you, what constitutes Victory? what are we fighting for? and for who are we fighting for?
The short term objectives to meeting the long term goal of a stable and democratically influenced government have definitely been poorly defined and keep changing. Things definitely could have and should have been handled better; but that is not limited to just this.
I don't have any specific solutions that will instantly make things better; but it seems there is a great lack of understanding of Middle East history, culture and the role religion (not just Islam as there are significant numbers of Christians and Jews in the region as well) plays in society.
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Everyone is finally equal. No one is smarter than anyone else. No one is stronger than anyone else. No one is better. Everyone is worse.
its good hussein is gone....but our presence in iraq at this point is doing nothin but draining our economy and killing our soldiers
War is good business if you are pounding the other guys into submission. It is terrible for the national debt, but I think you can credit the good financial state of the economy on the war.
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Now I'm just laid bad - G35Princess
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War is good business if you are pounding the other guys into submission. It is terrible for the national debt, but I think you can credit the good financial state of the economy on the war.
this is a terrible terrible terrible interpretation of why we should go to war.
next time i see a GI in uniform, i'll be sure to thank him for his contribution to our economy. or when i ask him "what are you fighting for?" and he says, "freedom." i'll shake my head and say "no son, your fighting to pump our economy."
send Bush's daughters there, send the kids of congressmen there to die for our economy. not our lower-middle class/middle glass boys and girls. fuck'em!
Gamma the UN is nothing put sniveling whiners that pass meaningless resolutions. How many resolutions against Iraq were needed to be passed before they were going to actually take some action?
Its just like with a child, you can tell them 'no' a thousand times, but until you actually punish them for doing the action they are not going to stop.
And with the rampant corruption in the UN oversight of Iraq why should they have been trusted? Not much food made it to the people in their much ballyhooed Food for Oil program, yet a lot of money made it to Saddam and hire regime through it. Where did most of that money come from? France, Germany and Russia... The same ones who opposed an end to Saddam's rule.
you can whine about the UN all you want, but they told us that Iraq had no WMD's. when Colin Powell stood up there and sold 'em a bill of goods, who looks like a fool - them or us?
yes, i agree, the UN lacks a strong bite. but when its house in a country that doesn't adhere to its rules or regulations anyway, why should anyone respect it?
