Regardless of what the hecklers said, the fact that he reacted the way he did shows his true colors GZ. Why does it matter what they said to him? If they made racial comments then they are racist too. No one is denying that. If someone comes at me with racial slurs, I am not gonna retaliate by shouting racial slurs back at them. And just because he has never had an outburst before doesn't prove a damn thing. All that means is that a camera was never around before. This may just be the first time he was caught. You don't say spew hate like that, with that kind of tone unless there is some deep seeded hate or feelings like that GZ. His true colors came flying out on that vid and he just fucked the rest of his career.
He could have some deep seeded hate.
So when Smoke makes jokes about your ethnic background.........he's a racist? Come on man, he says exactly what he wants to get you the most riled up, you cannot deny that.
Read the bold print.........WITHOUT HAVING THE FULL TAPE, WE CANNOT MAKE A FULLY INFORMED DECISION. We do not know what these guys said before the outburst.
By your way of thinking only the end matters and the trigger has nothing to do with it. It is a knee-jerk reaction Hexx. Slow down and look at what exactly caused the outburst.
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First of all, smoke is my friend. We clown on each other all of the time. When he does it, I know that he is just messing around. He even PM'd me once just to make sure that I knew that he was just messing around. Isn't it obvios GZ?? You have been around this forum and us long enough to know that we are both smart asses and both like to fuck around and make smart ass comments to each other and to others. But anyone who knows me and smoke, know that we are just clowning. If I am serious, you'll know it. Trust me.
As far as Richards, who gives a fuck what the beginning of the tape reveals?? What difference does that make as to what he said?? If you read his comments without knowing who said it, what would you think GZ?? If you read the comments that Richards made without knowing who made them, you would assume that it was some Nazi or KKK racist ass motherfucker who made those kind of comments right?? Okay, let's assume that the hecklers in the vid were calling him a honkey and a cracker and all of these kind of remarks, does that excuse anything that he said?? HELL NO!!! What caused him to have that outburst is irrelevant. He could have easily just said STFU you pieces of shit or something along those lines. But making references to the brutal, savage things that used to happen 50 years ago against African Americans and other minorities is inexcusable.
In my opinion even if they said racial slurs to him there is no need to come back with them. I have been called racial names before I do not turn around and say one back. I just don't think that way. My first reaction is to call someone a mother fucker or a bitch or an asshole but not racial slurs.
All the Assholes and Motherfuckers are equally offended by you saying this. Yes point is taken.
However sometimes people will come back with whatever comment they most feel with inflict damage on someone. That might mean disparaging comments about someone's race, however I prefer to use the "After looking at you, I know your momma screwed a buffalo case." However in the case of Smoke that is an insult to the buffalo (sorry Smoke I couldn't resist ).
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Regardless of what the hecklers said, the fact that he reacted the way he did shows his true colors GZ. Why does it matter what they said to him? If they made racial comments then they are racist too. No one is denying that. If someone comes at me with racial slurs, I am not gonna retaliate by shouting racial slurs back at them. And just because he has never had an outburst before doesn't prove a damn thing. All that means is that a camera was never around before. This may just be the first time he was caught. You don't say spew hate like that, with that kind of tone unless there is some deep seeded hate or feelings like that GZ. His true colors came flying out on that vid and he just fucked the rest of his career.
That makes you a pussy not a bigger man....a man can only be pushed so far before he pushes back, I consider myself to be a level headed, calm person, but there's only so much I can take before I push back....
................As far as Richards, who gives a fuck what the beginning of the tape reveals?? What difference does that make as to what he said?? If you read his comments without knowing who said it, what would you think GZ?? If you read the comments that Richards made without knowing who made them, you would assume that it was some Nazi or KKK racist ass motherfucker who made those kind of comments right?? Okay, let's assume that the hecklers in the vid were calling him a honkey and a cracker and all of these kind of remarks, does that excuse anything that he said?? HELL NO!!! What caused him to have that outburst is irrelevant. He could have easily just said STFU you pieces of shit or something along those lines. But making references to the brutal, savage things that used to happen 50 years ago against African Americans and other minorities is inexcusable.
Yes I agree that he could have used any other comments Hexx. I do not and have never disagreed with that. Why are you so angry?
My point is we still need all the information to understand what happened. Without knowing this you are just swinging a bat in an unlit room.
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That makes you a pussy not a bigger man....a man can only be pushed so far before he pushes back, I consider myself to be a level headed, calm person, but there's only so much I can take before I push back....
If they push hard enough, I'll simply kick their ass. Much more to the point than any racial slur . . .
What information do you need before you come to the conclusion that Richards is a racist GZ??
I need all the information Hexx.
I'll use an example............deaths in traffic related incidents are up this year in Hawaii, speed is being blamed. We know the end result is more traffic deaths (we know Richard made racial slurs).
Now what is the root cause? More cars on the road? More miles being driven? More people in the car during accidents? More head on collisions? More drunk drivers? (Now with Richards........is this the first time these guys heckled him? Have they done this before and used racial slurs with him? Are these guys professionals who do this for pictures/video/etc. to get money from stars?).
Given any incident people will view comments differently. In this case I viewed them the same as you, ggirl, and gamma. It was pretty shocking. However, by schooling I try to look at all the variables before coming to a conclusion because the results can be changed towards your bias by fussing around with the data.
In this case we don't see the beginning of the act. What did these guys say? Was it just hey you weren't funny except on Seinfeld? I seriously doubt that it was all that was said. If he was pushed into a corner by racial slurs made against him, he may again have been to the point where he wanted to get even and the only thing popping into his head were the same racial biases that were used against him. This does not necessarily make him a racist.
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Hmmm I heard about the Kramer incident but never seen it. Wow he just went off. That was uncalled for. LOL. But damn, I can't see Kramer being like that. Also, so many comedians get heckled but a lot of them act professionally from what I hear. Maybe Kramer got beat up by some black dude long time ago or a black man fucked his mom or something.
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....a man can only be pushed so far before he pushes back, I consider myself to be a level headed, calm person, but there's only so much I can take before I push back....
