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Old 08-23-2006, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default So which race will be superior? Personally I think Hispanics will kick ass!

ahahaaa, I got your attention . . . good

Seriously though, if you haven't heard, in the new Season of Survivor, they will seperate their tribes on race. Story below . . .

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A Racy Twist for "Survivor"

By Gina Serpe1 hour, 14 minutes ago

Some may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television.

Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics.

Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett.

Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment, rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings.

"The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said.

"So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creative for the show.' And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment, which is taking the show to a completely different level."

Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined.

"If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring."

"To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."

Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic, and potentially socially irresponsible, division.

While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick.

"Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, 'Wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity,' " he said.

Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew.

"It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said.

Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and, more recently on the latter, by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations."

And any publicity is good publicity, right?

"As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore."

Or watch it.

Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island, which split the tribes based on gender and age, averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the latest drastic measure.

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics."

"It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals--people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before."

It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through.

Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen."

Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."


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Old 08-23-2006, 06:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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My .02 cents: I have seen maybe 3 episodes of this show since its inception and I think this is a desperate RACIST ploy for ratings. I gotta tell ya though, as a ratings ploy, it's brilliant. I'm tempted to watch out of sheer curiosity. I'm just curious what the chanting will be when a particular race wins? It's gonna be weird if I hear "Black Power!" or "White Power!" yelled by the victors. It's not going to prove anything socially I think, it's still comes down to talented inviduals and how you work as a team together. That's who will win regardless of race.

I dunno what else to say except this is something I'd expect to see on Fox instead of CBS.
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Old 08-23-2006, 06:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think if they really cared about making it ethnically diverse, they should have had one person from each race on each team. By separating them by race, it seems more that they are asking for trouble.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah this should be interesting. i watched last season when they separated them by age group....and that was the big marketing tool....however...that lasted maybe 3 episodes at best and they were back to 2 teams. so im assuming the same thing will go with the new season.
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Old 08-23-2006, 08:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I could careless about these stupid reality T.V bullshit.

I hate how it's based upon and prays on human human hostility. If any of you dare get into it with me it's straight basic and simple, I hate hating on each other or these types of reasons.
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you never see any eskimos in there
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I think an all women season would have been a better idea.
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I think if they really cared about making it ethnically diverse, they should have had one person from each race on each team. By separating them by race, it seems more that they are asking for trouble.
i agree with beanie here. diversity and fair-game would be a mix and using race as a gimmick is asking for trouble because you got people that will take it the wrong way.

also as much as people want to believe, all races are not equal. each culture has different priorities of values that they choose to develop over others.

asian = studying
blacks = athletics
hispanics = working hard
whites = managing/supervising??? lol!
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ps: this IS "race wars" no matter how you look at it because i'm sure somebody in PR brought up the issue, "if the goal is diversity, put an equal percentage in all the teams. there's no reason to group them in that manner unless this is what you're looking for."

So it is what it is, saying otherwise only promotes more negativity.

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i might have to start watching this and cheer on for my peoples........when does it start???
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i might have to start watching this and cheer on for my peoples........when does it start???
Yeah I've never watched it before but maybe I'll watch a lil bit to see what's up. Could be interesting for a minute.
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