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Old 06-13-2006, 12:25 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Whether the voters repealed the law or not, it's idiotic to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.
thank you...couldn't have said it better myself...
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Old 06-13-2006, 12:35 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i can see Big Ben coming out of this on top with a big endorsement deal from Shoei.....
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:01 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Whether the voters repealed the law or not, it's idiotic to ride a motorcycle without a helmet.
+1 Hexx....if he'd had a full face helmut on, chances are he'd be a bit sore this morning and nothing else.
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:42 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You know I used to ride and started as soon as I was 16 back in the day with a Honda Hurricane 600. I hated it when CA implemented the helmet law and was seriously pissed. Right up to the point when a 16 year old kid who just got his license the week before cut me off trying to do a left turn. I was probably doing 45 to 55 mph. I hit his passenger side front wheel and that was all she wrote. I must have flown off my bike at 75 or 80 mph because I flew for about 30 feet landing in the bushes of a house. I was lucky this was Mission Viejo and suburbia, because I could have just as easily flown into a wall or a building. Even though I landed in bushes and grass I had some serious injuries. Had it not been for the helmet I was wearing, I would probably not be here to tell you all this. My brain received severe bruises and swelled up to a point where I almost got fluid drained from my brain cavity. Not a fun ordeal. The point is I learned my lesson and never doubted again the logic of protecting myself. That was then, this is today. Back then too many people were ignorant to the catastrophic repercussions of not wearing a helmet. This is certainly not the case today as we all know the benefits and the consequences of not wearing one. I feel bad for the guy for being in an accident and getting injured but I'm also dissapointed in that he chose to further the stereotype that all football players are idiots and that he has set a bad example for the millions of teenagers who look up to him as a role model By the way, they never did removed my bike from the side of his car. They actually had to cut the chassis of my bike out of his car. I think I was able to salvage the rear wheel off my bike.
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+1 Hexx....if he'd had a full face helmut on, chances are he'd be a bit sore this morning and nothing else.
Or he may have broken his neck. One of the arguments against mandatory helmet laws is that impacts can transfer more force into the neck and spine. And based on the pics of this accident I see how it could be plausible.

I say it should be voluntary. Why try and force natural selection out of the equation. If they want to live free and die young I say let them do both.
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Or he may have broken his neck. One of the arguments against mandatory helmet laws is that impacts can transfer more force into the neck and spine. And based on the pics of this accident I see how it could be plausible.

I say it should be voluntary. Why try and force natural selection out of the equation. If they want to live free and die young I say let them do both.

Interesting points to ponder in both cases. Somehow I can smell a no motorcycle clause in Bens contract in the near future lol
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
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My 2 cents...you are a professional athlete. Your career is short lived. Save bike riding for after your 10 years of fame (if you make it that long) are over. Anyways riding a bike as a contracted professional athlete is one thing (fine) but damnit...wear a stupid helmet. Its not like he couldnt afford 10 helmets for each day in a different colour anyways.....bahh..

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Ben isn't the first dumbass to have this happen to him and he won't be the last. That being said, I do wish him well, hopefully he's had some sense knocked into him now.
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Hopefully he recovers quickly. If not, I'm sure he'll get some Superbowl style help from the refs next season.
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sorry i don't agree with most of you... number one, saying things like "he can afford a different helmet for every day of the week" it obv isnt a money thing.. it's a freedom thing.. i hear bikers like that....

furthermore -- it should NOT be a law --- it should be up to you as a person to make that decision. would i ride without one? HELL NO! but it should be your damn choice. govt shouldn't tell us every detail of how to live our lives.

same as the seat belt laws... my buddies best friend died in a car accident and they determined that if he was NOT wearing a seat belt -- he probably would have lived.. now i know this is rare, but true. he refuses to wear one -- and he is a cop. i won't drive without one, but again... should be a CHOICE.

yeah he was dumb for not wearing a helmet.. but poor guy.. i'm sure we have all doen much dumber things than that.. and he does not deserve what he is about to go thru.......
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I learned the benefits of wearing a helmet, riding a bicycle, I wouldn't use the helmet sometimes when it was really hot, luckily, I was wearing my helmet the day I hit a curb and came off my bike and went head first into a street light pole, I felt stunned a bit, had a nice red mark on my forehead, but otherwise I was okay, the helmet was ruined, and seeing that made me never ride without a helmet again, I don't ride a motorcycle, but believe me, if I did, it would be with a helmet from this experince. If his injuries are as reported, he most likely wasn't going too fast at impact, IMO.
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Or he may have broken his neck. One of the arguments against mandatory helmet laws is that impacts can transfer more force into the neck and spine. And based on the pics of this accident I see how it could be plausible.

I say it should be voluntary. Why try and force natural selection out of the equation. If they want to live free and die young I say let them do both.

I guess this makes sense. However, its true that seatbelts break ribs and have sliced people in half, caused organ damage and failure etc. So should this be voluntary as well. I suppose yes helmets may cause bad effects in situations, but isn't that how all things are; they have consequences? However, in cost benefit analysis, how many times does the seat belt and helmet do good, vs. bad effects from its use? Im not sure on this so Im not using it as an arguement. My logic would say that more lives are saved from their use than not though.

Just my two cents.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:37 PM   #42 (permalink)
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he refuses to wear one -- and he is a cop. i won't drive without one, but again... should be a CHOICE.
I agree that people should have choices up until the point where their choices affect the safety of other. Let the idiots of the world unite and kill themselves off.
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I guess this makes sense. However, its true that seatbelts break ribs and have sliced people in half, caused organ damage and failure etc.
I'm not sure if people have been "sliced in half," but organ damage is possible. However the organ damage is usually due to improper sealt belt usage.

Take Nikki Taylor for instance, she had the seat belt up past her hip bone and because of it, the force of her crash was transfered to her internal organs. If she had been properly wearing her sealt belt she may have broken her hip, but she would have been in a much easier position to have her problems dealt with.

As far as helmets go the current motor cycle standard and what roneski is refering to is probably does not make the most sense. Bike and car helmets are currently grouped into the same categories, but they should not be. Even knowing this, I'd rather take the neck injuries versus having my brain matter scattered on the street.
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nikki taylor....that was tragic.....she was hot as hell...
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nikki taylor....that was tragic.....she was hot as hell...
WTF are you talking about? Are you filling in for Smoke? Nikki is alive, she just went through a ton of operations over a long time because she wasn't properly restrained.
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