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Old 04-24-2006, 10:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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You can't get fired for surfing the internet at work. A judge have decided that you can't get fired for your slacking so I'll see my fellow 6MTer on more often!!!
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NEW YORK - Saying surfing the web is equivalent to reading a newspaper or talking on the phone, an administrative law judge has suggested that only a reprimand is appropriate as punishment for a city worker accused of failing to heed warnings to stay off the Internet.

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Administrative Law Judge John Spooner reached his decision in the case of Toquir Choudhri, a 14-year veteran of the Department of Education who had been accused of ignoring supervisors who told him to stop browsing the Internet at work.

The ruling came after Mayor Michael Bloomberg fired a worker in the city's legislative office in Albany earlier this year after he saw the man playing a game of solitaire on his computer.

In his decision, Spooner wrote: "It should be observed that the Internet has become the modern equivalent of a telephone or a daily newspaper, providing a combination of communication and information that most employees use as frequently in their personal lives as for their work."

He added: "For this reason, city agencies permit workers to use a telephone for personal calls, so long as this does not interfere with their overall work performance. Many agencies apply the same standard to the use of the Internet for personal purposes."

Spooner dispensed the lightest possible punishment on Choudhri, a reprimand, after a search of Choudhri's computer files revealed he had visited several news and travel sites.

Martin Druyan, Choudhri's lawyer, called the ruling "very reasonable."
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I heard about this on the radio today. This is great news for those of us that whore it up from here at work!!
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Spooner dispensed the lightest possible punishment on Choudhri, a reprimand, after a search of Choudhri's computer files revealed he had visited several news and travel sites.
Somehow I don't think 6mt would count directly as a "news" site
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Luckily for me I am in the "auto" insurance business. I am doing research on this particular "auto" on 6MT!
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This won't hold any water if your company attempts to fire you for going to off-topic(in the sense of your job) leisure sites such as this.

Going to sites like this all-day is probably more along the lines of sitting on the work phone all day and taking personal calls(endulging in extremely long conversations with your girlfriend, etc). I'm sure most companies probably don't care too much if employees go to a few leisure(but work-safe) sites here and there, as long as it doesn't have a negative impact on their productivity as an employee. The same can be said about personal calls or even personal e-mails.

I any of us started to have productivity dropoffs at our job and our bosses consistently walked into our office to discover us reading copies of "Car and Driver" or "The National Enquirer" instead of doing our work, there would be hell to pay for it.
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Another total B.S. left-whack bench decisiion. Somebody bitch slap that idiot! As an employer, I set the standards of protocol in my companies and what I expect of the employees. Surfin' the internet is NOT in their job description and I'll be damned if I need another left-wack judge telling me what I can and can't do in MY business. Tell me Spooner, exactly how many games of solitaire a day must I allow before YOU feels it affects my employees job performance?! Fucking moron. Fine. Guess what you dnmb-f*<% judge, I just pulled all employee telephone access from their worksite and, with the money saved, hired another sysAdmin to lock out all but work-related internet site access. I'm thinking about a ban on cell phones at the workplace too now...
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Fine. Guess what you dnmb-f*<% judge, I just pulled all employee telephone access from their worksite and, with the money saved, hired another sysAdmin to lock out all but work-related internet site access. I'm thinking about a ban on cell phones at the workplace too now...
Guess I'll never be working for you.
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Another total B.S. left-whack bench decisiion. Somebody bitch slap that idiot! As an employer, I set the standards of protocol in my companies and what I expect of the employees. Surfin' the internet is NOT in their job description and I'll be damned if I need another left-wack judge telling me what I can and can't do in MY business. Tell me Spooner, exactly how many games of solitaire a day must I allow before YOU feels it affects my employees job performance?! Fucking moron. Fine. Guess what you dnmb-f*<% judge, I just pulled all employee telephone access from their worksite and, with the money saved, hired another sysAdmin to lock out all but work-related internet site access. I'm thinking about a ban on cell phones at the workplace too now...

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damn dholly, u remind me of a boss i had yet when not even surfing the web at that place.. haha
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Another total B.S. left-whack bench decisiion. Somebody bitch slap that idiot! As an employer, I set the standards of protocol in my companies and what I expect of the employees. Surfin' the internet is NOT in their job description and I'll be damned if I need another left-wack judge telling me what I can and can't do in MY business. Tell me Spooner, exactly how many games of solitaire a day must I allow before YOU feels it affects my employees job performance?! Fucking moron. Fine. Guess what you dnmb-f*<% judge, I just pulled all employee telephone access from their worksite and, with the money saved, hired another sysAdmin to lock out all but work-related internet site access. I'm thinking about a ban on cell phones at the workplace too now...
Soooo, where can I send my application?
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Another total B.S. left-whack bench decisiion. Somebody bitch slap that idiot! As an employer, I set the standards of protocol in my companies and what I expect of the employees. Surfin' the internet is NOT in their job description and I'll be damned if I need another left-wack judge telling me what I can and can't do in MY business. Tell me Spooner, exactly how many games of solitaire a day must I allow before YOU feels it affects my employees job performance?! Fucking moron. Fine. Guess what you dnmb-f*<% judge, I just pulled all employee telephone access from their worksite and, with the money saved, hired another sysAdmin to lock out all but work-related internet site access. I'm thinking about a ban on cell phones at the workplace too now...
But surfing the web is therapeutic for me *wah, wah, sniffle, sniffle*. Besides keeping me up on current events, my doctor told me my internet activity helps keep me calm. I suffer from post-pornographic inflamatory stress syndrome (PISS), and you are not granting me reasonable accomodation under the ADA
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I don't put the time, energy and sweat equity into funding, building and maintaining a company just to give someone else a job at my expense. I have every right to expect better than average from my employees because that is the philosophy under which I run my businesses and hire them. Hell, my employees have the run of the shop. They don't have time clocks or someone standing over them and I could care less how they spend their day, so long as they acheive the work goals I set in the job description. They know what's expected and produce. If they don't, someone else will sign their paycheck. In fact, none have ever left due to working conditions or pay. Sounds pretty fair to me. I am not a particularly tough boss, until you start costing me my reputation or profit. The latter is tough enough thanks to jerks like Spooner who can't fathom the damage their silly little decisions ultimately inflict on small businesses who are already taxed and 'legislated' to the hilt. I simply do not need some half-baked prick on a setting such standards for my companies. Ultimately, decisions like this harm the employees, you watch...
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I don't put the time, energy and sweat equity into funding, building and maintaining a company just to give someone else a job at my expense. I have every right to expect better than average from my employees because that is the philosophy under which I run my businesses and hire them. Hell, my employees have the run of the shop. They don't have time clocks or someone standing over them and I could care less how they spend their day, so long as they acheive the work goals I set in the job description. They know what's expected and produce. If they don't, someone else will sign their paycheck. In fact, none have ever left due to working conditions or pay. Sounds pretty fair to me. I am not a particularly tough boss, until you start costing me my reputation or profit. The latter is tough enough thanks to jerks like Spooner who can't fathom the damage their silly little decisions ultimately inflict on small businesses who are already taxed and 'legislated' to the hilt. I simply do not need some half-baked prick on a setting such standards for my companies. Ultimately, decisions like this harm the employees, you watch...
what kind of biz do you have???
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what kind of biz do you have???
All profitable.
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