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Old 01-23-2006, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half of students at four-year colleges -- and at least 75 percent at two-year colleges -- lack the literacy to handle complex, real-life tasks such as understanding credit card offers, a study found.

The literacy study funded by the Pew Charitable Trusts, the first to target the skills of graduating students, finds that students fail to lock in key skills -- no matter their field of study.

The results cut across three types of literacy: analyzing news stories and other prose, understanding documents and having math skills needed for checkbooks or restaurant tips.

Without "proficient" skills, or those needed to perform more complex tasks, students fall behind. They cannot interpret a table about exercise and blood pressure, understand the arguments of newspaper editorials, compare credit card offers with different interest rates and annual fees or summarize results of a survey about parental involvement in school.

"It is kind of disturbing that a lot of folks are graduating with a degree and they're not going to be able to do those things," said Stephane Baldi, the study's director at the American Institutes for Research, a behavioral and social science research organization.

Most students at community colleges and four-year schools showed intermediate skills. That means they can do moderately challenging tasks, such as identifying a location on a map.

There was brighter news.

Overall, the average literacy of college students is significantly higher than that of adults across the nation. Study leaders said that was encouraging but not surprising, given that the spectrum of adults includes those with much less education.

Also, compared with all adults with similar levels of education, college students had superior skills in searching and using information from texts and documents.

"But do they do well enough for a highly educated population? For a knowledge-based economy? The answer is no," said Joni Finney, vice president of the National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education, an independent and nonpartisan group.

"This sends a message that we should be monitoring this as a nation, and we don't do it," Finney said. "States have no idea about the knowledge and skills of their college graduates."

The survey examined college students nearing the end of their degree programs.

The students did the worst on matters involving math, according to the study.

Almost 20 percent of students pursuing four-year degrees had only basic quantitative skills. For example, the students could not estimate if their car had enough gas to get to the service station. About 30 percent of two-year students had only basic math skills.

Baldi and Finney said the survey should be used as a tool. They hope state leaders, educators and university trustees will examine the rigor of courses required of all students.

The college survey used the same test as the National Assessment of Adult Literacy, the government's examination of English literacy among adults. The results of that study were released in December, showing about one in 20 adults is not literate in English.

On campus, the tests were given in 2003 to a representative sample of 1,827 students at public and private schools.

It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than half of students at four-year colleges -- and at least 75 percent at two-year colleges -- lack the literacy to handle complex, real-life tasks such as understanding credit card offers, a study found.

That's because no one teaches people about credit or budgeting until it's too late...
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It doesn't help that a lot of professors have been in academia for so long they don't know much about the real world to teach to their students. That annoyed me in my business classes a lot. The fact I could sleep in class or read car mags and still do better than the class average just on stuff I'd learned on the job was irritating.
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I went to college to party, I work to learn...
Unfortunately that is most college people's attitude...
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Well, I learned a lot of reponsibilities when I was in college and it did open my mind up more to different views and shit like that. Nothing really practical. Except for ROTC where they do teach you leadership skills and management skills. I never really took practical class, I wish I had though.
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Well, I learned a lot of reponsibilities when I was in college and it did open my mind up more to different views and shit like that. Nothing really practical. Except for ROTC where they do teach you leadership skills and management skills. I never really took practical class, I wish I had though.
You went to class....I thought you just tried to find sluts around campus...
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That is awesome....Where did you go?
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That is awesome....Where did you go?
i think it was a humanities class....she cut HS and came over in the morning...couldnt just leave her at my place....
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I brought a screwdriver to class once...the drink...
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We would get the Big Gulps from the gas station and pour in some rum or whiskey. That was in high school though....
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We would get the Big Gulps from the gas station and pour in some rum or whiskey. That was in high school though....
that explains alot...
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hey...... About what?
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