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Old 11-27-2005, 09:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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To be fair, nice guys don't exactly finish all that high either.



Girl X : God, guy X is such an asshole, I can't believe that he cheated on me.

Me : I'm sorry baby, didn't see that coming huh? These things happen when you date night club managing wannabe playboys.

Girl X : What do you mean? He's not like that!

Me : yeah but...

Girl X : He was so sweet when we were alone.

Me : But you met him by flirting with him in line at the club and he did have a girlfriend at the time too.

Girl X : You're right.

Me : I know.

Girl X : I need a nice guy.

Me : STFU.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Bitch or nice girl, what happened to being who you are and what you wanna be and finding someone who likes that? I think the reason a lot of relationships don't work out is because people spend too much time trying to be someone they're not. I have a feeling here in Dallas there's a lot more of that going on the in most cities. 15 years of dating and it seems the older you get the more crap you have to dig through to get to the real person. In high school and even college, people seem to be more real and untainted by the social games.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Tell me about it. My last two relationships ended with this as one of the reasons...
yep... it was the most obsurd thing at the time...I was dumbfounded and at a lost for words..."how the hell did giving you what you want...lead to the break up?" Simple...the "challenge" was gone.


And JM...it's not about playing games, it's about when to 'dealt your cards'. If you give all your best cards upfront, you have nothing left to play at the end. I've been that 'nice girl" and that was who I was- no games no bs. I cooked, I cleaned, I was always there when he needed me, I always called and left food if I was going out with my friends.... what a recipe for a disaster.

Now... I'm still the 'same' girl but I don't go out of my way to please any guy anymore. I'll do nice things but not all the time. I won't always call, I'm not always 'available', I don't cook unless I have too- because the truth is when guys don't get treated like kings and one day they do...they appreciate you. I do wish I could be the NICE girl All the time...but my fear is that it'll end up like it did the last time... and I just can't risk my heart a second time.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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To be fair, nice guys don't exactly finish all that high either.

Girl X : I need a nice guy.

Me : STFU.
Girls like Assholes... just ask me...well I don't but I attract them; I'm a jerk magnet and I don't know why.

Don't be too nice Ty. I already told you that....but you're still too sweet to listen to me. Anyways I just want you to know that I'm ALWAYS available to bitch slap a girl for you if she walks all over you (even if you let her)

btw... I might be going to Vegas Friday and Jesse is coming along... will that be a problem? (he's gay but I PROMISE you he won't try anything with you. )
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:38 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I guess it might depend on things that have happened to you in the past. My experiences have made me be some times too brutally honest upfront and that scares a lot of girls away. Four years ago December 22nd my girlfriend passed away in my bed of a heart aerithmia, spelling???? After dealing with that mess I really realized time is not guranteed. I know it's a cliche statement, but you never really know if you're going to be around tomorrow. This made me realize how true that really is. I was 26 and she was 24 and the last 4 years I've spent dating girls who either don't think they're getting what I tell them they're getting, or they don't give what they say they're going to give.

In my opionion, being honest and being real from the start is the only way to make a real, healthy relationship work. I know there haas to be a little mystery or there's no excitement or nothing to look forward to. But there's a lot of ways to accomplish that with out playing games.
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I'm sorry to hear about your gf. and you have every right to not have to deal with games. I do hope you will find someone close to what she was.

And maybe it's where you live... here in CA... if you don't play games you'll get played. I will honestly tell you that if I ever met the right guy...I wouldn't play games...but I haven't so far and the guy I dated... played games from day 1, I just didn't see it until later. But the guys on this forum are great and caught on right away and they were right on the money. So sometimes you have to play even if you don't want to.
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Thanks, no reason to be sorry though. I learned a lot from the whole experience and she was an incredible girl.

And there's no doubt there's always gonna be games played. I do think when you meet someone you're really into though, the games are of a different type. At that point it's more of a chase kind of thing, which I think is fun and I love it. It's what keeps us interested and wanting to be with the person. If everything's too easy at first and from day one you're together every minute, there's really nothing to look forward to.

Trust me, Dallas is as bad or worse then any place there is about the games and all the BS that comes with them. But there's someone out there for all of us. It just takes some of us a little longer to find them. I've always been the good guy and refuse to change that because girls out there want to play the game. I think you'll always end up dating the type of person you are. Be a good person and you'll get a good one in return. Be an ass, you're going to get the girl that's attracted to the ass.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:42 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Be a good person and you'll get a good one in return. Be an ass, you're going to get the girl that's attracted to the ass.
point taken... I'll remember this advice...this is perhaps why I attract assholes Karma's a bitch ain't it ???? LOL
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In my opionion, being honest and being real from the start is the only way to make a real, healthy relationship work. I know there haas to be a little mystery or there's no excitement or nothing to look forward to. But there's a lot of ways to accomplish that with out playing games.
Amen brother!

I think another important factor is making sure that you are secure and happy by yourself and can meet you own needs independant of anyone else. That way you won't be dependent on someone else to meet those needs. If you can find someone else like that, then all of that energy usually wasted trying to get you partner to meet those needs can now be spent doting on each other.
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To be fair, nice guys don't exactly finish all that high either.

Girl X : God, guy X is such an asshole, I can't believe that he cheated on me.

Me : I'm sorry baby, didn't see that coming huh? These things happen when you date night club managing wannabe playboys.

Girl X : What do you mean? He's not like that!

Me : yeah but...

Girl X : He was so sweet when we were alone.

Me : But you met him by flirting with him in line at the club and he did have a girlfriend at the time too.

Girl X : You're right.

Me : I know.

Girl X : I need a nice guy.

Me : STFU.
+1!

The end result of this is that in many cases, a nice guy will turn into an asshole after being burned a few times.
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Old 11-28-2005, 12:17 PM   #41 (permalink)
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And there's no doubt there's always gonna be games played. (cut for length)
Be an ass, you're going to get the girl that's attracted to the ass.
very well said
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This is kind of an interesting conversation to be having with girls in this environment. I know I don't know yall more then the last couple posts we've made, but seeing yall are in this forum and obviously into cars, you already have a big leg up on most girls in at least having one major thing in common with a lot of guys. I think it's reall sexy that there are girls that are into cars, not just for the Lambos or Bentleys, but for the every day cars like the Gs. A little off topic I know, but that thought just ran through my head. If you know of any down to earth girls in the Dallas area, send em my way.
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This is kind of an interesting conversation to be having with girls in this environment. I know I don't know yall more then the last couple posts we've made, but seeing yall are in this forum and obviously into cars, you already have a big leg up on most girls in at least having one major thing in common with a lot of guys. I think it's reall sexy that there are girls that are into cars, not just for the Lambos or Bentleys, but for the every day cars like the Gs. A little off topic I know, but that thought just ran through my head. If you know of any down to earth girls in the Dallas area, send em my way.
Okay I'm going even farther off topic... Do you have pics of your busa?
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I'll post them tonight. I don't have any here at the office. That was a random request by the way.
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I'll post them tonight. I don't have any here at the office. That was a random request by the way.
Yes I know it was random, I love bikes and just now noticed it in your sig.
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