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Old 11-21-2005, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 11-21-2005, 01:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just read this not more than 10 minutes before you posted it.

I was spanked, in fact, my Mom used to beat the hell out of me (up until 13 or 14) and I turned out okay. Did it cause more aggression and anxiety in me . . . I dunno, and I don't think so.

It all depends on your surroundings and the rest of the variables that you are brought up with. Will I discipline my kids in the same fashion? Not to the same extent, but I will definitely spank them. I believe it's a choice that should be left up to the parents.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was beat severly once when i was little. Just that one time diciplined the hell out of me and I think I'm pretty well rounded right now. I wouldnt spank my kids to the extreme, probably just pinch thier ear n twist it. It'll work a hell lot better than staring at the corner.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Of course the real question is, like the article says, does beating lead to aggression or are aggressive kids beaten more? I think both are the case for me. And because I eat a lot of tofu. Tofu has been linked to aggression. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-imm043004.php
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my mom tried to hit me once when i was like 10 ... i chased her
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Yeah, inconclusive findings in my mind. There certainly could be other factors that make kids who are physically disciplined more aggressive and anxious.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LOL... spanking works. the reason that lead to aggressive is because America makes a big freaking deal over it.

Asian people spank their kids all the time. I got my butt whooped from twigs, hangers, wires, belt, chopsticks, rulers, bare hands..you name it
I came out okay... I think - lol

And damn right I'll spank my kids if they think they turn out to be little brats. Put a good ass whooping to their behind.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My mom used a broom on me once, a hanger, extension cords, the belt was the most popular . . . but if you've ever seen Eddie Murphy's Delirious, the part where he joked about his mom acting like Clint Eastwood with that shoe of hers, how she would fling it like a gun slinger and it would it hit - you'd hear a cry - and it would come back to her . . . that was my 4 ft 11" mom. She would be devastating with that shoe of hers. When I saw this sketch, I laughed my ass off.

I was the oldest, so I got the brunt of it. The youngest never or rarely gets hit. And when I was in my early teens, I was studying Kenpo Karate, so it was difficult for my mom to hit me. I was either blocking/parrying or just dodging altogether. That's when my step-father came in and started to haze me. That was almost worse than a beating.
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lol... gamma...you're mom is what I'll be...LOL.. 4"11....throwing some shoe and knocking out my kids!!!
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I would strongly advise against slinging the shoe. When my mom used it, my bike just got stolen after she told me not to ride it that day, but I whined and got my way. She got so mad, she took off her shoe, flung it across the room, and it smacked me on the nose making me bloody.

I think it's hilarious now, and I know my parents are human, so they made mistakes, but this should not be encouraged.
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The only time my Mom tried to spank me I grabbed her hand and stopped her, but then my Dad walked in and finished the job for her... I learned to let my Mom punish me, it hurt a whole lot less then letting my Dad do it.
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I hit my dog to discipline n teach him. Now whenever I raise my hand like I'm about to hit him, he listens right away.
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I hit my dog to discipline n teach him. Now whenever I raise my hand like I'm about to hit him, he listens right away.
If only children could be as conditioned when it comes to obedience. God knows how many times I made the same mistake over and over again. It's just not the same thing.
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Iron, I never know whether you are being serious and confessing a horrible thing from your past or getting ready to bust out on tofu...oh, man you crack me up in these threads...but anyway my horrible perspective on it...

My mother beat me, called me ugly and stupid until I absolutely fucking hated her and was suicidal by age 7. Less agressive, more internalized trying to fix her and myself so that she would be my mommy and love me. At some point my step-brothers took over on the beatings......so, I am probably not likely to raise my hand against anyone unless it is in self defense and then people might want to leave the area because doubtless I have learned that I can take a very severe beating and still be standing long enough to more than deal the hand back.

My friend at work David used to make me laugh sometimes by saying, "you are O - K - Susan Brown no matter what your mother says". So you see it is still hard to see her love for me through those early beatings. I am only fine "in spite of" but that was because it really was just totally abusive and not related so much to punishment.

But I guess I wonder that my father never had a problem with me that he couldn't solve by treating me with love and so he never beat me. As an adult you know he was smarter than a child and there is always a way to handle it if you know that you are smarter than it.

If you are level headed then I suppose spanking can be very reasonable punishment, if you are not level headed then it is probably a bad idea to get physical with loved ones. Not that anyone would ever be so abusive and unloving as my mother was...but still if the phone rang right now and my father said you have to sell your G tomorrow I would only ask "why" because I wouldn't be able to live another second without knowing the depth of what could be troubling him. I would do anything for him.

It wasn't but three years ago that I said, "Hey, Mom we really need to work on this relationship. At this point, I'll need a reason to cry at your funeral".
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