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Old 11-21-2005, 06:42 PM   #46 (permalink)
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smoke -- get your head out of your ass... he can shoot!!! LOL


hexx -- i got one too!!!!

he cant shoot if his life depended on it.
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AI is definitely the man! One of my favorite jerseys is my AI jersey.


oh come on hexx, AI is a piece of crap!!!!
he would take 95% of players one on one
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:43 PM   #48 (permalink)
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smoke -- get your head out of your ass... he can shoot!!! LOL


hexx -- i got one too!!!!

he cant shoot if his life depended on it.

dude, watch some games.
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AI is definitely the man! One of my favorite jerseys is my AI jersey.


oh come on hexx, AI is a piece of crap!!!!
he would take 95% of players one on one

like who? he cant defend for SHIT. and he cant shoot for SHIT either.


he can break a few ankles but thats about it. overrated
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smoke -- get your head out of your ass... he can shoot!!! LOL


hexx -- i got one too!!!!

he cant shoot if his life depended on it.

dude, watch some games.

i do! he sux!
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AI is definitely the man! One of my favorite jerseys is my AI jersey.
oh come on hexx, AI is a piece of crap!!!!
What do you base your opinion on smoke? AI is a scoring machine that never really has had much help so he had to take a ton of shots. Now he has Chris Webber and the other AI (Andre Iguodala????? something like that) to help pick up the slack. The only 2 players that I would take over AI are Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan right now!
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AI is definitely the man! One of my favorite jerseys is my AI jersey.
oh come on hexx, AI is a piece of crap!!!!
What do you base your opinion on smoke? AI is a scoring machine that never really has had much help so he had to take a ton of shots. Now he has Chris Webber and the other AI (Andre Iguodala????? something like that) to help pick up the slack. The only 2 players that I would take over AI are Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan right now!



are YOU KIDDING ME???????????????????



he's 5'11 and weighs 170 lbs!



what about kevin garnett, yao ming, shaq, amare stoudemire, rasheed wallace, ben wallace, jermaine oneal, ron artest, and the list goes on!


lets just stick to his position... T-mac, dwayne wade, steve francis, baron davis, ray allen, bonzi wells, andre miller, lebron james.
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You got it smoke! The ONLY guy more clutch than AI is Kobe Bryant. With the game on the line I'll take AI over everyone on your list. And his height is another reason why he is the man. He out plays dudes twice his size with his quickness and heart!
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AI is definitely the man! One of my favorite jerseys is my AI jersey.
oh come on hexx, AI is a piece of crap!!!!
What do you base your opinion on smoke? AI is a scoring machine that never really has had much help so he had to take a ton of shots. Now he has Chris Webber and the other AI (Andre Iguodala????? something like that) to help pick up the slack. The only 2 players that I would take over AI are Kobe Bryant and Tim Duncan right now!



are YOU KIDDING ME???????????????????



he's 5'11 and weighs 170 lbs!



what about kevin garnett, yao ming, shaq, amare stoudemire, rasheed wallace, ben wallace, jermaine oneal, ron artest, and the list goes on!


lets just stick to his position... T-mac, dwayne wade, steve francis, baron davis, ray allen, bonzi wells, andre miller, lebron james.

he could take any of them
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You got it smoke! The ONLY guy more clutch than AI is Kobe Bryant. With the game on the line I'll take AI over everyone on your list. And his height is another reason why he is the man. He out plays dudes twice his size with his quickness and heart!
A.I. CLUTCH?!?!??!?!?!??!?!



give me a break if he's soooo good, why couldnt he lead the USA olympics team to a gold medal?


and i am sorry, the most clutch man in the NBA is robert horry, not "the answer"
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and i am sorry, the most clutch man in the NBA is robert horry, not "the answer"
horry can def out shoot him, but not outplay him.

not many players compare to iverson in overall play.
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and i am sorry, the most clutch man in the NBA is robert horry, not "the answer"
horry can def out shoot him, but not outplay him.

not many players compare to iverson in overall play.

bro, he has NO D.


and he's definitedly not in the top ranks of shooters in the league.

yes, he's fast, but there are plenty of players out there that are WAY better players all around. (at guard)
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Shooter schmooter, who gives a fuck. Does he score? Yes! He is one of the best scorers in the NBA bar none. If I was going to start a team, my top 3 picks would be Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan and AI. You can disagree all you want smoke but AI has delivered all of his career dispite the fact that many times he had NO help and had to career the offensive load all by himself.
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offensive line has no effect on throwing to wide open receivers.
The O-line needs to give your QB time to throw to receivers.
please exlpain to me what that has to do with wide open receivers that he CONSISTENTLY threw at their feet to???????????
Without seeing the play and coverage I cannot comment. It is sometimes the best to throw a ball at your receiver's feet so that it doesn't get picked or get your receiver killed. Throws are made routinely behind receivers in crossing patterns so they don't get led into the killer hit. Maybe you're right, but again I'd have to see the play and see if he's throwing under people too (under the arms of a D-line man who is not getting penetration so he is jumping in an effort to deflect passes as he is taught to do).

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There is a difference between scrambling and running for your life. In any case if they reduced the pressure on McNabb he wouldn't have to scramble so much and as such would be far less susceptible to injury.
yes the off. line has a big effect on succesfull scrambling. but he just can;t do it well anymore. besides the injury. ooo and he'll be better after the surgery, right? wrong.
He could definitely be slowing down and it's really up in the air if he'll be better after the surgery, only time will tell. However I am glad that you agree with me that your original assessment that the O-line has no bearing on scrambling was not correct.

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You are saying that McNabb doesn't know the plays? I'm sure Donovan knows the plays better than TO since he's been running the offense for several years. I'm sure you mean that TO and Donovan aren't seeing the coverage the same and aren't making the same adjustments. Might be because these two guys never talk to each other, or that TO wasn't in training camp because he was faking an injury to get more money out of a contract that he jumped at and willingly agreed to.
OK this has NOTHING to do with TO - so take him out of it. when Hank Fraley got hurt -- it was said by the team that it would be a big loss because he knew the offense the best, even better than mcnabb.
it was later said that even McMahon and Detmer understand the offense better than McNabb.
if you are an eagles fan and follow them... this would make sense.

TO??? he has nothing to do with McNabb knowing plays. TO got open... McNabb failed to find him AND many others wide open time AFTER time. and many times when he did... he couldn't hit them.
Well now you have your wish. Since all the healthy backups are better than the injured McNabb they should do better than him. Time will tell who is right on this. Unfortunately for you I don't think the backups will do better, they are backups for a reason don't expect another Kurt Warner miracle.


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Are you saying that McNabb never audibles at the line? I find that hard to believe in today's NFL that any QB doesn't audible at some point in time.
NO I NEVER SAID HE NEVER AUDIBLES. where did i say that?
he does, but not nearly enough.

"watch the shovel pass"

enough said....
Again we shall see how the healthy backups do. Since they know the offense better than McNabb they will audible out of most of the trouble.

Damn man only one year and TO has already sent this francise to the shits...........if I could only see him in a Cowboys or Patriots uniform I could die happy.
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