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Old 09-06-2005, 04:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I went camping to Michigan (240 miles) this past weekend and on the way back a guy in an 05 Mustang GT joined my journey back home. We played with each other for about an hour. At points where there were no cars in sight, we had some fun runs from ~80mph to ~140mph. Funny thing is that I was pulling on him each time, VERY SLIGHTLY, but I pulled.

The most noticeable run was when I was driving about 80, he was behind me and decided to change lanes and tried to take me. I downshifted when he was about 2 car lengths behind me and he only managed to pull another 1 1/2 car lengths until I started pulling away . At about 140mph he was 3 cars behind.

OK now, I was very surprised afterwards. I mean, aren't they suppose to be quicker at higher speeds, it's a V8

Maybe it's the Z tube and K&N

BTW, towards the end (when I had to get off the highway and refill my tank ) a nice BUSA joined the party. WOW, those things are fast.
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wow, thats the first encounter so far with someone and the new GT's. nice job, and nice story you have a knack for not doing races from a start i think it mightve been a different story...

dont even mess w/ the crotch rockets...
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let alone a busa!!!
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...you have a knack for not doing races from a start ...
guess it's just my luck/curse....at least I'm saving my tires and clutch
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...you have a knack for not doing races from a start ...
guess it's just my luck/curse....at least I'm saving my tires and clutch
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Great game. It's great to know that too. I think our transmission design had a lot to do with your result -- especially the last three gears at high speeds. Most cars' top gears are much higher than the G -- wasted RPM in return for some quieter (lower rpm) cruising. The G is really good at high speed -- good acceleration and good aerodynamics. I bet you felt a lot more confident too than the guy hopping around his solid rear axle, which is air lifted at 130mph.
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Great game. It's great to know that too. I think our transmission design had a lot to do with your result -- especially the last three gears at high speeds. Most cars' top gears are much higher than the G -- wasted RPM in return for some quieter (lower rpm) cruising. The G is really good at high speed -- good acceleration and good aerodynamics.
yea, that's what I heard too, that a Mustang's top gears are not that good...

it was cool as hell to see the guy's face when I started pulling that one time when he got almost next to me (he was like WTF) PRICELESS

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I bet you felt a lot more confident too than the guy hopping around his solid rear axle, which is air lifted at 130mph.
you're right, at 140mph I felt like I was going ~90....he was the one that would not go past that speed, I guess he was scared of "flying away"
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Dang, this really makes me want to hit up my cousin to race! He has an 05 Mustang GT and I want to see how my G matches up against his Mustang.
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Dang, this really makes me want to hit up my cousin to race! He has an 05 Mustang GT and I want to see how my G matches up against his Mustang.

do it, do it
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Dang, this really makes me want to hit up my cousin to race! He has an 05 Mustang GT and I want to see how my G matches up against his Mustang.
Unless he is a BAD driver, he should win in 0-60.

But after that, take him to the highway and pay him back
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Dang, this really makes me want to hit up my cousin to race! He has an 05 Mustang GT and I want to see how my G matches up against his Mustang.

do it, do it
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Since you are a Mustang owner, pardon me for joking about your rear axle being air lifted. Seriously though, do you care to share your 1st hand experience of the feel of stability at that speed?

Also, your result seems quite the opposite than buddy6mt's. In his description, there's at least one clear case where the Mustang got an early jump on him -- more than 0.5s since he had to do a downshift too. But buddy still won.

Assuming neither of you lied, this probably comes down to transmission options. Buddy's mod of Z-tube couldn't be significant enough. But he might have run his MT against an AT Mustang, while you might have run your MT Stang against an AT G without significant mod. The G's 6MT design is indeed very good, especially at high gears. I think it's a significant advantage to the G's own AT at the speeds we are talking about here. And these speeds are higher than what a quater mile run would show. What do you think?
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Since you are a Mustang owner, pardon me for joking about your rear axle being air lifted. Seriously though, do you care to share your 1st hand experience of the feel of stability at that speed?
I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky......

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Also, your result seems quite the opposite than buddy6mt's. In his description, there's at least one clear case where the Mustang got an early jump on him -- more than 0.5s since he had to do a downshift too. But buddy still won.
0.5s is a BIG understatement. He was driving about 3 cars behind me and I'm sure he went WOT before he even switched lanes. I didn't downshift till he was about 2 cars behind.

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Assuming neither of you lied, this probably comes down to transmission options. Buddy's mod of Z-tube couldn't be significant enough. But he might have run his MT against an AT Mustang, while you might have run your MT Stang against an AT G without significant mod.
That's what I was thinkin too. I was shiftin at ~6500RPMs getting the most out of my trans.
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Na, crack all the live axle jokes you want...I know it was a cost saving measure and isn't optimal for performance. There is a T intersection near my work where I have a stop sign, but other road doesn't. The road at the intersection is uneven and my left rear tire squeals *everytime* I make the turn.

To be honest, I have never gone over 120 in my Stang. I am way too scared of going to jail. 120 felt fine though. Haha, I'm lying, I can't remember how it felt, I was too freaked out about being pulled over.

Some guy got his Stang in Germany and said he sustained a speed of like 130 for 20 mins.

I don't know much about the G's transmission. Are 1-5 driving gears or are both 5 and 6 overdrives? If only 6 is overdrive, then yeah, maybe once you get to speeds where the Stang has to go into overdrive to continue accelerating, the G might have a definite advantage.

But your comparison of AT vs MT and MT vs AT sounds very valid. I stand corrected. I was going up against an AT G and buddy has an MT G.

Well, I will probably never find out because I'm getting 3.90 gears put in next month. Gunna chop off a significant part of my topspeed, I think.

When I was test driving G's, the salesman let me whip around a few high speed curves. I have to admit that car feels great in the corners. Very stable, no detectable sway, smooth as butter. I actually read on car and driver that the G can pull more lateral g's than the 350Z and had a higher slalom time also. I'm not a fan of the Z at all, but I love the G...it's my 2nd favorite car...

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Since you are a Mustang owner, pardon me for joking about your rear axle being air lifted. Seriously though, do you care to share your 1st hand experience of the feel of stability at that speed?

Also, your result seems quite the opposite than buddy6mt's. In his description, there's at least one clear case where the Mustang got an early jump on him -- more than 0.5s since he had to do a downshift too. But buddy still won.

Assuming neither of you lied, this probably comes down to transmission options. Buddy's mod of Z-tube couldn't be significant enough. But he might have run his MT against an AT Mustang, while you might have run your MT Stang against an AT G without significant mod. The G's 6MT design is indeed very good, especially at high gears. I think it's a significant advantage to the G's own AT at the speeds we are talking about here. And these speeds are higher than what a quater mile run would show. What do you think?
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