Seriously!!! If this car is something around 3000~lbs. like they're stating Hyundai pretty much is about to release the 2010 370Z before Nissan does. I know it's a bit down on power at 310, but with a little mods I'm sure you can get some more out of a 3.8 V6. With the hardware it's coming equiped with it just might be the bang for the buck car that turns the affordable sports car world upside down.
Just think what the G35 did when it came out. This car seems to have more of everything, so... Looks like we're in for some fun boys n girls. Kiss the dogs and kick them wives, I'm go'n in.
Motor Trend lists the weight as follows:
for the V-6 model (base trim) at 3550 lbs.
for the I-4t model (base trim) at 3450 lbs.
im sorry but anyone that says this car looks better than a G37 needs to leave the dust alone.
the gensis's design doesnt have any luxury or class like that of a 335i and mos def not the G37.
the gensis looks like a sport car not luxury
i have to agree with you here. it does look nice, but that's it. it looks like a larger tiburon. no way it will be stealing customers from infiniti.
hyundai does a good job at producing a car that rivals more expensive models(not besting them though)...
for instance the azerra VS. 7 series and the tiburon VS. the late RSX. the last commercial i saw was them putting the Sante Fe or something up against the Toyota Highlander.
the problem is, people aren't choosing the hyundai over their original choice to get a similar car and save money - rather, they are bought by those in the market for a lesser car at the same price point.
i feel like the genesis would not sell to potential G37 drivers, but instead potential Eclipse buyers.
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i have to agree with you here. it does look nice, but that's it. it looks like a larger tiburon. no way it will be stealing customers from infiniti.
hyundai does a good job at producing a car that rivals more expensive models(not besting them though)...
for instance the azerra VS. 7 series and the tiburon VS. the late RSX. the last commercial i saw was them putting the Sante Fe or something up against the Toyota Highlander.
the problem is, people aren't choosing the hyundai over their original choice to get a similar car and save money - rather, they are bought by those in the market for a lesser car at the same price point.
i feel like the genesis would not sell to potential G37 drivers, but instead potential Eclipse buyers.
this genesis is in the same crowd as eslipses, neon srt-4s, wrx's and lancers etc
exactly. i just got back in town from a business Trip in Miami.
i was in areas where the High dollar cars were a dime a dozen. Infinti's were just as plentyful as mercs and bmws. there are getting to be quite a bit of G37's on the road. i must have seen atleast 7 G37's on the way down and 5 coming back home. well six including the one at the rest stop.
but the G37s, M's, FX's, G35 sedans being amougst the many, mercs, ferrari, lambos, audis, BMWs, astons, Jag XKR's (love those). Infinti really has stepped their game up in the last few years.
the G37 is a legit luxury sports car which fits in well with the BMW's, mercs etc. actually the G37's looks and disposition makes it stand out, it looks better than that of the new Mercs and 335i coupe.
but i have a new respect for the 335i coupes looks. they look alittle better to me but still are a little dulll. but its a pretty good looking car
The Hyundai name will never be up to par with BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti and there is no way that someone who is about to buy a 335 is going to decide to pick up a Hyundai instead just to save a few bucks. This car is going to be much like the SRT-4 where it is a quick car for the price but at the end of the day it is still going to be a Neon (or Hyundai)...We will see more high schoolers in it than professionals.
you know, i've tried really hard to like the 37. i've seen a couple from reeaaally far away, and it looks pretty good. i speed up to take a better look, and i always get the same.. bleh.. feeling...
the 37 is like a blind date chick, although you know you could've done better, if you squint your eyes really tight, it doesnt look that bad!
you know, i've tried really hard to like the 37. i've seen a couple from reeaaally far away, and it looks pretty good. i speed up to take a better look, and i always get the same.. bleh.. feeling...
the 37 is like a blind date chick, although you know you could've done better, if you squint your eyes really tight, it doesnt look that bad!
^^^ I totally agree.
Also, nobody ever said this car will steal sales from Infiniti. I just said that this will be the new bang for the buck car. With the climbing price of the G37 there's a void to be filled. I said that this car looks poised to do more than the G35 coupe did when it arrived. Good equipment, performance, bad interior, etc. sound familiar?
@ car porch: I didn't know that this car was as heavy as that. Eh, another one misses the target. Imagine what this car could do if it weighed in at 3000~lbs.
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The Hyundai name will never be up to par with BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti and there is no way that someone who is about to buy a 335 is going to decide to pick up a Hyundai instead just to save a few bucks. This car is going to be much like the SRT-4 where it is a quick car for the price but at the end of the day it is still going to be a Neon (or Hyundai)...We will see more high schoolers in it than professionals.
I agree with that. I think the real positive that comes out of this, if it does come in at good pricing, is that it makes all the major manufacturers take note and sharpen their pencils...it basically just pushes the market forward to meet the new level of consumer expectations. If you can get "all that" for that pricing, then consumers will grow to expect a commensurate amount of improvement from the big names to justify their pricing differential. I think in the end, it will only be a very good thing.
Also, nobody ever said this car will steal sales from Infiniti. I just said that this will be the new bang for the buck car. With the climbing price of the G37 there's a void to be filled. I said that this car looks poised to do more than the G35 coupe did when it arrived. Good equipment, performance, bad interior, etc. sound familiar?
@ car porch: I didn't know that this car was as heavy as that. Eh, another one misses the target. Imagine what this car could do if it weighed in at 3000~lbs.
+1 on that. The basic formula is pretty awesome: 300hp/rwd/25K
And yeah, it could use some dieting still, but you gotta start somewhere.
The Hyundai name will never be up to par with BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti and there is no way that someone who is about to buy a 335 is going to decide to pick up a Hyundai instead just to save a few bucks. This car is going to be much like the SRT-4 where it is a quick car for the price but at the end of the day it is still going to be a Neon (or Hyundai)...We will see more high schoolers in it than professionals.
I totally disagree with your comment zero. It's actually contridicting if you think about it. I mean three decades ago, less than 5 years ago for Infiniti, there were those that said that Lexus and Infiniti will never be in the same class as MB and BMW, but looking at your statement obviously proves that incorrect.
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I totally disagree with your comment zero. It's actually contridicting if you think about it. I mean three decades ago, less than 5 years ago for Infiniti, there were those that said that Lexus and Infiniti will never be in the same class as MB and BMW, but looking at your statement obviously proves that incorrect.
Actually zooms, you make a pretty good argument for zero (and me) with what you've said. Consider that it is Lexus and Infiniti and Acura(maybe) that are running in the upper class now....AND NOT Toyota, Nissan, and Honda. These companies recognized they'd never be able to outlive their name brand association and therefore created whole new entities to market under. Perhaps Hyundai will spin off an upscale in the future, but it's doubtful we'll see Hyundai itself be used as that flagship...IF they ever even try.
Actually zooms, you make a pretty good argument for zero (and me) with what you've said. Consider that it is Lexus and Infiniti and Acura(maybe) that are running in the upper class now....AND NOT Toyota, Nissan, and Honda. These companies recognized they'd never be able to outlive their name brand association and therefore created whole new entities to market under. Perhaps Hyundai will spin off an upscale in the future, but it's doubtful we'll see Hyundai itself be used as that flagship...IF they ever even try.
That's a good point. Lexus, Infiniti and Acura were all created in the US because Toyota, Nissan and Honda weren't able to outgrow the stigma of cheap economy cars. So it would probably make sense that Hyundai create a luxury line for themselves as well, but that's getting techincal. We all know who makes the cars and it really doesn't matter what badge is on the hood does it? In all practical purposes I mean.
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Actually zooms, you make a pretty good argument for zero (and me) with what you've said. Consider that it is Lexus and Infiniti and Acura(maybe) that are running in the upper class now....AND NOT Toyota, Nissan, and Honda. These companies recognized they'd never be able to outlive their name brand association and therefore created whole new entities to market under. Perhaps Hyundai will spin off an upscale in the future, but it's doubtful we'll see Hyundai itself be used as that flagship...IF they ever even try.
what do you mean by name brand association? At the same time, couldn't you say the same about GM? Or was cadillac already established when GM acquired them?
That's a good point. Lexus, Infiniti and Acura were all created in the US because Toyota, Nissan and Honda weren't able to outgrow the stigma of cheap economy cars. So it would probably make sense that Hyundai create a luxury line for themselves as well, but that's getting techincal. We all know who makes the cars and it really doesn't matter what badge is on the hood does it? In all practical purposes I mean.
+ 1
i'm always hearing people say:
"i own an acura, the luxury brand of honda "
or
"i own a lexus, the luxury toyota "
i think if people really wanted to get away from the stigma, then they wouldn't make these comments, or we wouldnt be see rebadged acura's, infiniti's, and lexus'.
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