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Old 12-23-2007, 11:46 AM   #61 (permalink)
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right but any car can be tuned and modded. i thought we were talking stock to stock?

if you're referring to a mines tuned gt-r, should it not be compared to a callaway or lingenfelter???
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Old 12-23-2007, 12:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
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right but any car can be tuned and modded. i thought we were talking stock to stock?

if you're referring to a mines tuned gt-r, should it not be compared to a callaway or lingenfelter???

you are right but with the ZR-1 being 100k plus and the GT-r only being 80k. the extra 20k plus can do alot.

but you are right. id take the Mine's GT-R. a 505hp vette is scary enough. no point in a Callaway or lingenfelter to me
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right but the GT-R will be sold in 3 different trim levels, the more expensive (evo?) will the the most comparable to the ZR1, and will cost about $95k. so you're only 5k off and the ZR1 will still have gobs more HP...

and $5,000 won't get you much for a $95,000 car.
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right but the GT-R will be sold in 3 different trim levels, the more expensive (evo?) will the the most comparable to the ZR1, and will cost about $95k. so you're only 5k off and the ZR1 will still have gobs more HP...

and $5,000 won't get you much for a $95,000 car.
you're right

but i dont care about a bunch of hp. i care about useable hp. which the ZR-1 wont be able to use all of it hp like the Z06 cant

im thinking the ZR-1 will not beat the GT-R v-spec on the nurb

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Old 12-23-2007, 01:50 PM   #65 (permalink)
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well it's all speculation. we are talking about 2 cars that are not yet available stateside. you can't exactly base anything on the japanese GT-Rs that are already out. i think we all know that the US usually gets somewhat of a watered down version. only time will tell...

my argument is based solely on numbers, since that is all we have to go on at this point.
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Old 12-23-2007, 03:10 PM   #66 (permalink)
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well it's all speculation. we are talking about 2 cars that are not yet available stateside. you can't exactly base anything on the japanese GT-Rs that are already out. i think we all know that the US usually gets somewhat of a watered down version. only time will tell...

my argument is based solely on numbers, since that is all we have to go on at this point.

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Old 12-26-2007, 12:23 PM   #67 (permalink)
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what do you mean there isnt one in production yet. you do live on planet earth right. they are out in Japan. there is a new video in one of the other threads where edmunds get the GT-R to do 0-60 in 3.3 secs and 1/4 in 11.6 trapping 121mph
All smoking aside, the ADD generation fails to read the entire article.And some even fail to think for themselves. NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND!.. Is this the reference you were speaking of?
2009 Nissan GT-R - Full Test: InsideLine.*

Since you want to talk, GT-R, ok, let's. To make sure that I am communicating clearly so that you can understand me, I'll explain that my bias leans towards the environment in which the cars were meant to be driven; a track, with left AND right turns; sorry NASCAR fans. The true measure of a car lies in its all around performance, not just it's 0-60, 1/4 mile, or braking from 60mph distance. Comparing 0-60 is like comparing who can orgasm the fastest; utterly pointless. But let's delve into this article, and discuss what is REALLY being said behind the veil of super sexy wording, shall we?
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It's even quicker than the Porsche 911 Turbo tiptronic, but not by much.
TIPTRONIC. Who drives a tiptronic Porsche Turbo? To further illustrate this point:
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Leave the launch control off and the tranny in R mode, and the car is still sick quick. Sixty mph arrives in 4.0 seconds and the quarter-mile disappears in Leave the launch control off and the tranny in R mode, and the car is still sick quick. Sixty mph arrives in 4.0 seconds and the quarter-mile disappears in 12.3 seconds at 120.6 mph. All our testing was completed using manual shifting12.3 seconds at 120.6 mph. All our testing was completed using manual shifting.
So, let's compare apples to apples with these two. Manual GT-R vs. manual 911 Turbo:
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As the test numbers prove, the 911 Turbo is monster fast, flashing through the quarter-mile in 11.7 seconds and hitting 100 mph from rest in just 7.8 seconds. The 0-to-30-mph time is an incredible 1.1 seconds, compared with 1.7 seconds for the two other cars. Midrange performance is equally impressive, the Turbo running 50 to 70 mph in top gear in just 5.4 seconds. It matches the Corvette up to 120 mph, then the Z06 pulls away.
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a 911 turbo cant run with a vette? what planet do you live on?

and if you honestly think that if someone is looking at a ferrari that is equally priced with a vette and they would pick the vette you are smoking some good shit. matter of fact. let me have some of wha tyou are burning
Ok, fine, I concede. The Porsche CAN run with the Vette'; for a few seconds. Than, it's all over. Need some numbers for that argument? Or maybe.. you could do some of your own research, and look at the numbers for yourself. Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Edmunds, Automotive.com.

Second, yes, there are people who would pick a Vette' over a Ferrari, REGARDLESS OF COST. Two different markets, two different desires. The Ferrari is about flash, and looks. Sort of like that really hot girl that everyone wants to screw, but nobody wants to be in a relationship with. The Vette' is about substance, power, and speed.

And lastly, as stated previously, the GT-R is not available stateside. That said, whatever numbers are out, at this point are strictly speculation, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Nissan is notorious for sending the Americans dumbed down, water down versions of the original, or in some cases, not sending it at all.

I'd still like to see your demographics numbers on the Vette' if you've got them. You seem to be in the loop and know how that market is shaking out. Whatcha got?

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[quote=. The Ferrari is about flash, and looks. Sort of like that really hot girl that everyone wants to screw, but nobody wants to be in a relationship with. [/quote]

can i use this in my sig....funniest thing ive ever heard...also because its true
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