+1... If you really want economical, go buy a Civic or a Yaris...
yes but even if you didn't want to go that extreme, there's so many more logical things you could do. i would say most ppl get a week's worth (or more) of driving out of a tank. as i stated before, you'd be saving about $4.00 a tank... so that works out to about $200 saved over the course of a year. that's not even a drop in the bucket for most people. if you wanted to keep the G and save money, why not opt for less expensive tires? the difference between a nice set of pirelli's and a decent set of Kumhos can easily be $250 per tire (I have seen 18" Ecstas for ~$100 each)... right there you would be saving about $700-$1000 or 3-4 times the annual savings of using 87. plus you won't be harming your engine.
or like I said, clip coupons and use grocery store reward cards.
cut back on your cable plan. cable generally starts at around $35/monthly but can easily get to $145/monthly before you factor in internet and phone.
i could go on and on and on. but the point is, the difference to your wallet is negligable. cut costs in other areas if you're wanting to be thrifty.
He was just asking a question
that's what these forums are about
it's none of your business how much he pays for the car
who are you to belittle someone like that
And I answered his question with the exact reason why you need to use premium. How is stating the fact that a person purchased an expensivish car which is CLEARLY NOT an economical choice for a vehicle and is now trying to see if he can use gas that is also CLEARLY NOT reccomended, in an attempt to save money when there are more economical alternatives, making it my business?? Bottom line is that if ANYONE is worried about paying 20-30 cents more per gallon then they should not get/have a G37. It makes no sense and its painfully obvious to boot.
If you think that my reply was "Belittling" then my guess is that you've never heard someone belittled before. Did I insult him, call him a name or say he was stupid?? I don't believe anything like that was said. I was simply being honest, and to the point. I'll add sprinkles and cherries next time for you and then we can all hold hands and skip down the street singing together if that makes you feel better.
if you wanted to keep the G and save money, why not opt for less expensive tires? the difference between a nice set of pirelli's and a decent set of Kumhos can easily be $250 per tire (I have seen 18" Ecstas for ~$100 each)... right there you would be saving about $700-$1000 or 3-4 times the annual savings of using 87.
Where are you getting your tires??? You're getting ripped off... I've never owned a set of tires that cost more than $300 each... the Pirelli P-Zero Neros weren't even $200 each...
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Where are you getting your tires??? You're getting ripped off... I've never owned a set of tires that cost more than $300 each... the Pirelli P-Zero Neros weren't even $200 each...
mine is an 04 so i go through tires too quickly to put the good stuff on. i just get ecstas... the $300+ is because i know the p-zeros are on tirerack.com right now for something like $295+ shp for the 18's... and i know a lot of ppl shop there.
Where are you getting your tires??? You're getting ripped off... I've never owned a set of tires that cost more than $300 each... the Pirelli P-Zero Neros weren't even $200 each...
How'd you like the nero's? Are they worth the extra $$? I almost got a set when I purchased my old 20"s but went with the B-stone RE050A PP's instead because they were cheaper and rated better but they do get a bit loud with less than 50% tread
How'd you like the nero's? Are they worth the extra $$? I almost got a set when I purchased my old 20"s but went with the B-stone RE050A PP's instead because they were cheaper and rated better but they do get a bit loud with less than 50% tread
Performance wise, I like the RE050A Pole Positions much more. But the Neros I had were much quieter, and much more comfortable. But that may be because of the bigger sidewalls, although I only went down to 45s with a wider tread...
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And I answered his question with the exact reason why you need to use premium. How is stating the fact that a person purchased an expensivish car which is CLEARLY NOT an economical choice for a vehicle and is now trying to see if he can use gas that is also CLEARLY NOT reccomended, in an attempt to save money when there are more economical alternatives, making it my business?? Bottom line is that if ANYONE is worried about paying 20-30 cents more per gallon then they should not get/have a G37. It makes no sense and its painfully obvious to boot.
If you think that my reply was "Belittling" then my guess is that you've never heard someone belittled before. Did I insult him, call him a name or say he was stupid?? I don't believe anything like that was said. I was simply being honest, and to the point. I'll add sprinkles and cherries next time for you and then we can all hold hands and skip down the street singing together if that makes you feel better.
Look botomline he just wanted opinions on the subject
there are some people on this forum that act like know it all little bitches
and being rude to other people on the forum who are just asking questions
Though I or any of you would't put a lower grade oil in our cars there are some that do, and for some people they are not awhere of the side effects
I'm sure now that the OP has gotten some knowledge about the subject he won't use a lower grade
sorry I don't hold hands with other guys, but if thats what your into I'm sure you will find someone else on these forums thats into that
Like I said, just because you buy some expensive things it doesn't mean you should completely forget about ever trying to save money. It makes perfect sense to try to save money on gas with a G37. Let's say, hypothetically, it makes no difference which gas you get. The person that posted this didn't know that that was wrong, you can't blame them for that, here they are now doing research they are doing the right thing. But let's say the gas makes no difference. You would have to be an idiot to get the more expensive gas. All they were doing was seeing if it makes a difference. It does, so they'll get the more expensive gas, it's not stupid to make sure that the money you are spending is worth it. The G37 is an economical choice for some people, because every extra dollar they pay is worth the extra luxury. It isn't a matter of if you spent a lot on a car who cares about nickels and dimes, its about making sure every penny you spend is worth the spending of that penny. It makes perfect sense for every penny of a G37 to be worth it and at the same time every extra penny for more expensive gas that has no benefit (hypothetically) to not be worth it. There is no reason to criticize someone just because they are making sure that there is a real benefit to spending extra money.
+1 on the savings not being worth having to rebuild a motor...
Higher octane is not for better mileage... they recommend it on higher horsepower motors because it helps keep the motor from pinging or knocking, which is pretty much a bad detonation in your motor.
I think this is the absolute bottom line to the whole question regarding using premium vs. regular.
Look botomline he just wanted opinions on the subject
there are some people on this forum that act like know it all little bitches
and being rude to other people on the forum who are just asking questions
Though I or any of you would't put a lower grade oil in our cars there are some that do, and for some people they are not awhere of the side effects
I'm sure now that the OP has gotten some knowledge about the subject he won't use a lower grade
sorry I don't hold hands with other guys, but if thats what your into I'm sure you will find someone else on these forums thats into that
1. He wanted an opinion so I gave him one (love it or leave it)
2. I addressed WHY premium should be used
3. There was NOTHING offensive about saying ----->IF<---- he was worried about pinching pennies for gas to get a Prius
I'd hate to see how'd you react if someone actually did say someting rude
So are you going to continue to whine and try to make something out of nothing or be quiet and realize you woke up on the wrong side of bed today?
Crap, forgot to call people names and use profanity. I hear that makes people more effective communicators
Like I said, just because you buy some expensive things it doesn't mean you should completely forget about ever trying to save money. It makes perfect sense to try to save money on gas with a G37. Let's say, hypothetically, it makes no difference which gas you get. The person that posted this didn't know that that was wrong, you can't blame them for that, here they are now doing research they are doing the right thing. But let's say the gas makes no difference. You would have to be an idiot to get the more expensive gas. All they were doing was seeing if it makes a difference. It does, so they'll get the more expensive gas, it's not stupid to make sure that the money you are spending is worth it. The G37 is an economical choice for some people, because every extra dollar they pay is worth the extra luxury. It isn't a matter of if you spent a lot on a car who cares about nickels and dimes, its about making sure every penny you spend is worth the spending of that penny. It makes perfect sense for every penny of a G37 to be worth it and at the same time every extra penny for more expensive gas that has no benefit (hypothetically) to not be worth it. There is no reason to criticize someone just because they are making sure that there is a real benefit to spending extra money.
i see what you're saying but honestly i did not know anyone out there did not know there was a difference between the grades of gasoline. this would have been the cruelest little trick that the petroleum and auto manufacturers have been playing on us.
as far as your point about the g37 being economical, you're never going to win that argument. it may be more economical than another choice (the 335i), but it is far from economical for so many reasons.
again, if you're pinching pennies - and that is a great practice, many people have become very wealthy that way - you are starting with the wrong vehicle.
none of us meant any harm to the OP or anyone else. no one called this guy a name or told him he was stupid... someone mentioned the cost of the car, and unless he won it on the price is right, the cost is a very valid point.
1. He wanted an opinion so I gave him one (love it or leave it)
2. I addressed WHY premium should be used
3. There was NOTHING offensive about saying ----->IF<---- he was worried about pinching pennies for gas to get a Prius
I'd hate to see how'd you react if someone actually did say someting rude
So are you going to continue to whine and try to make something out of nothing or be quiet and realize you woke up on the wrong side of bed today?
Crap, forgot to call people names and use profanity. I hear that makes people more effective communicators
whatever man, I didn't wake up on the wrong side of the bed at all
actually I'm in a good mood the Lakers won last night so I'm happy
you sound like one of those telephone tough guys
I'm not whining about anything I could careless about what you have to say
I'm not the OP so it wasn't directed towards me, but your post sounded like your bitter about something
i see what you're saying but honestly i did not know anyone out there did not know there was a difference between the grades of gasoline. this would have been the cruelest little trick that the petroleum and auto manufacturers have been playing on us.
as far as your point about the g37 being economical, you're never going to win that argument. it may be more economical than another choice (the 335i), but it is far from economical for so many reasons.
again, if you're pinching pennies - and that is a great practice, many people have become very wealthy that way - you are starting with the wrong vehicle.
none of us meant any harm to the OP or anyone else. no one called this guy a name or told him he was stupid... someone mentioned the cost of the car, and unless he won it on the price is right, the cost is a very valid point.
I wasn't trying to defend him as if someone had been mean, I was just disagreeing with the notion that people should just completely disregard a possibility to save money even though you have enough money to buy an expensive car.
And about the car being economical, it really depends on what you mean by economical. You are thinking economical as in a cheap way to get from point-A to point-B, I am thinking economical as in I considered my finances and decided that the benefits of a G37 over any cheaper car are more valuable to me than the extra cash I had to throw out, and that the benefits of more expensive cars are not worth as much as the extra cash for them. I suppose your interpretation would go more along the lines of what people would consider economical when talking about cars, but it's still a fairly subjective word.
EDIT: Whoa, after posting, I noticed this is a really long analysis over something fairly insignificant. I really just don't have anything better to do at the moment so don't think I'm offended or anything; I tend to overanalyze things to begin with--the following paragraph just sort of went out of hand. Feel free to ignore the rest of my post lol.
When it comes to what this person was thinking as far as which gas to get it was in both senses of the word. This person wanted to inform himself of the benefits of premium gasoline (maybe he thought it would only increase performace or something and wasn't aware of the damage involved in using the wrong gas), so that he could make determine whether or not spending the extra money will really benefit him. And yes, the thought that he bought an expensive car does definitely indicate a lot. Buying expensive things shows that you value money a little less (not because of ignorance or stupidity, just because you have more money than other people--we don't value food as much as someone that is starving to death) than the average person. That would indicate that rather than how the average person would require a certain amount of benefits from premium gas to use it, this person might only need to know that there are any benefits at all. As soon as this person figures out that they can gain at all, they should go ahead and get premium gas, where the average person (let's say a prius required premium for some strange reason) might need a little bit more convincing that the wrong gasoline can actually cause a significant amount of damage to the car. If this person said "OK there are real benefits but I'm still not sure," then it wouldn't make sense that they would be so concerned about the small amount of money they have to spend for real benefits. But, I think this person was just thinking that there was a slight chance that there was actually no benefit to premium gasoline (as a result of a lack of knowledge about it), and, based on the spending habits that resulted in getting a G37, this person probably didn't require any more convincing other than the mere suggestion that the wrong gasoline could damage the car. So, while that point is definitely valid (and would be absolutely right if the person were still reluctant), I don't think it really applies here, because this person can still be considered to be acting with the same spending habit as the one that would result in the purchase of a G37, as no matter how wealthy you are (unless you are Bill Gates), there is nothing wrong with making sure that your money is at least going to some sort of use. Your point applies more in a situation where the person would still be reluctant to spend the not so significant amount of cash even after finding that it has benefits, because for anyone with enough money to buy a G37 the benefits of premium gas should be well worth the cash. My whole point was that, while that might be the case, there was absolutely no indication that it is the case (in fact the person's silence suggests that they probably saw that there might be harm and they just thought "OK I'll get premium") and it probably isn't, so there is no reason to criticize someone when the action you are criticizing them for probably isn't even taking place.
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i've run 87 in mine a few times... no problems at all.
i THINK the manual even states you can run 87, but only every so often. i think it states the car can sense the difference and automatically adjusts the timing which will result in less performance.
makes sense to me.
but yeah i have ALWAYS used bt 91-94 octane except once in the first year and - haha - the last time i filled up.. bc i am pissed at prices and i will only have it for another 2 months.
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