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Old 05-19-2007, 07:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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no... the old G35 got about 235 hp to wheels. this adds another ~50 so you are getting about 287 hp to wheels. The loss ratio has decreased with the new frame/chassis.

so G35 engine output 293 hp 235 of which made it to wheels.
G37 engine output 330 hp 287 of which made it to wheels
this is less than the hp loss percentage of the 335i, but 335 will kick butt with the 299.81 lb/ft of torque TO THE WHEELS
Okay i got you now, a more efficient drivetrain. Kinda like Porsche's, they normally dont loose a lot of power from the engines to the dyno's.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Okay i got you now, a more efficient drivetrain. Kinda like Porsche's, they normally dont loose a lot of power from the engines to the dyno's.
thank you! drivetrain is the word i was looking for
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if you do the math 287 comes out to be about 344 in normal crank hp (287 X 0.2= 57 57+287= 344). This car will run like a car that has 344 hp- not 330. Thats why BMW's and porsche normally are a bit faster than their #'s show...they have superior drivetrains that actually get that power down to the wheels efficiently with minimal loss. Camaro/Corvettes/Mustangs for example have always been notoriously bad at this.
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if you do the math 287 comes out to be about 344 in normal crank hp (287 X 0.2= 57 57+287= 344). This car will run like a car that has 344 hp- not 330. Thats why BMW's and porsche normally are a bit faster than their #'s show...they have superior drivetrains that actually get that power down to the wheels efficiently with minimal loss. Camaro/Corvettes/Mustangs for example have always been notoriously bad at this.
nice! thanks for info, i didnt know this is how you'd calculate it.
but so far the G37 numbers arent any better than 335i's. the next thing would be gears and gear ratio, and since the G37 auto is only 5spd, i guess bimmer wins that too
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The 335i is 3660lbs, the G coupe is to be around 3500lbs...so we got that going for us...which is nice.


But the extra 70lbs of torque the BMW has hurts. Although the G37 has 15 more hp.
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no... the old G35 got about 235 hp to wheels. this adds another ~50 so you are getting about 287 hp to wheels. The loss ratio has decreased with the new frame/chassis.

so G35 engine output 293 hp 235 of which made it to wheels.
G37 engine output 330 hp 287 of which made it to wheels
this is less than the hp loss percentage of the 335i, but 335 will kick butt with the 299.81 lb/ft of torque TO THE WHEELS
since when does a motor lose that much power through the frame
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since when does a motor lose that much power through the frame
that's what the article said, not me... but sometimes you could lose like 40% of power... and that's according to my physics book
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that's what the article said, not me... but sometimes you could lose like 40% of power... and that's according to my physics book
that's about how efficient gasoline engines are, and where did the article say that
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that's about how efficient gasoline engines are, and where did the article say that
oh my bad. they have dyno graphs showing these numbers. go to bottom of the article, find the "dyno charts" link, then u'll see 3 charts, one for G37 (numbers to the wheels), one for G35, and one for both compared
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here 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe - Dyno Charts - Automobile Magazine
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It’s been well documented that BMW’s new twin-turbo inline six from the 335i produces significantly more power than its official 302hp rating suggests. We reported earlier about a test of a brand new 335i Coupe on a dyno, which resulted in outputs from the motor ranging from 282 to 300hp at the wheels. Estimating drive-train loss of roughly 15-20%, this equates to roughly 350 to 375hp at the flywheel. The publication that ran the earlier tests on the BMW, Automobile Magazine, has now run Infiniti’s new G37 Coupe on the dyno and achieved some exciting results for the 3.7L V6.
The new motor debut’s Nissan’s VVEL technology, which uses infinitely variable valve timing adjustment, similar to BMW’s Valvetronic system. The official ratings stand at 330hp and 270lb-ft of torque, although Infiniti is yet to release finalized peak output ratings. Tests on the dyno reveal that the new VQ37 produces 22% more power than the smaller VQ35 from the previous G35 but is only 5.6% larger in displacement.
The dyno charts also reveal that the new 3.7L unit produces a flat torque curve from 2,000rpm all the way until 5,000rpm and is still producing 85% of its peak torque at redline. The engine is also rated at having just 37hp more than the previous 3.5L motor but developed 51 more horses on the dyno. Taking into account driveline losses of 20-25%, we’re looking at a flywheel figure of around 365hp. Bravo Infiniti.



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Damn did anyone notice the spoiler also??? I love the porsche look it has going with it. Mine would def come with the spoiler if I get it. Numbers are great too!!! Can't wait to see the colors in person.
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Taking into account driveline losses of 20-25%, we’re looking at a flywheel figure of around 365hp. Bravo Infiniti.
well thats exciting......I can't wait to see some 0-60, 1/4 mile numbers
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It’s been well documented that BMW’s new twin-turbo inline six from the 335i produces significantly more power than its official 302hp rating suggests. We reported earlier about a test of a brand new 335i Coupe on a dyno, which resulted in outputs from the motor ranging from 282 to 300hp at the wheels. Estimating drive-train loss of roughly 15-20%, this equates to roughly 350 to 375hp at the flywheel. The publication that ran the earlier tests on the BMW, Automobile Magazine, has now run Infiniti’s new G37 Coupe on the dyno and achieved some exciting results for the 3.7L V6.
The new motor debut’s Nissan’s VVEL technology, which uses infinitely variable valve timing adjustment, similar to BMW’s Valvetronic system. The official ratings stand at 330hp and 270lb-ft of torque, although Infiniti is yet to release finalized peak output ratings. Tests on the dyno reveal that the new VQ37 produces 22% more power than the smaller VQ35 from the previous G35 but is only 5.6% larger in displacement.
The dyno charts also reveal that the new 3.7L unit produces a flat torque curve from 2,000rpm all the way until 5,000rpm and is still producing 85% of its peak torque at redline. The engine is also rated at having just 37hp more than the previous 3.5L motor but developed 51 more horses on the dyno. Taking into account driveline losses of 20-25%, we’re looking at a flywheel figure of around 365hp. Bravo Infiniti.



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Nice post man, i was tring to get at something like that..but didnt have 100% of the knowledge.
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