Yea Gard...thats what I was thinking...I'm really interesting in finding out what freq the remote works at, and what freq the cellphone mics can pick up. I have a feeling it might be limited to the types of cell phone...How about u guys post what kind of cellphone u guys where using as well?
I'm a little iffy on this...I kinda wanna try it myself before I become a true believer.
Didn't work for me. I tried my Sprint Sanyo 8100. My mom was on the house phone. Maybe I wasn't doing it right. I held the phone up against the dor handle.
I was using a co-workers Motorola but not sure what model it is, it was with Verizon. I have a Treo 600 with Sprint. Ima go to SAMS club in a couple hours. It's about 3 miles from here, and I'm going to try it with this phone. Will post the results!
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So I guess we can rule that house phones can't pick up the freq that the remotes transmit at. But I have a few questions about the house phone. What was the brand? and were they cordless? This is getting to be really interesting...
We also tried house phone to house phone. That didn't work either. My house phone is a Vtech cordless, and my mom was on a Uniden cordless. I'll try cell to cell in a little bit.
OK... obviously only works on certain phone combos, so this is not as exciting a development for everyone as I thought. Although it worked at the office (using office phone - Nortel made- to call Motorola cellphone) I could NOT duplicate it here at moms, which totally SUCKS. Tried calling from the house (using a landline corded phone and a landlilne cordless- Panasonic 2GHz) to a Treo 600 and a Kyocera cellphone, all combinations, nada. Oh well, good idea to keep that spare key in your pocket I guess. I'd still like to keep a running tab of which ones it is actually working on though.
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Are you guys sure it isn't just using the cell phone as an antenna? That is what it sounds like to me.
I'd like to see if someone was able to get this to work outside of like a 3 mile range where the antenna issue would be completely out of the equation. I bet it wouldn't work.
With the information gard gave me about the remote frequency I think that it does have to deal with the mic on the phone u are using. I'm almost positive if U can find out who manufactors the mics on ur cellphones and look up the specs that it is able to pic up the freq of the remote. Im gunna go try it with my dads benz keys.
Claim: Cars equipped with remote keyless entry systems can be unlocked via cell phone.
Status: False.
Origins: A familiar form of jape applied especially to newcomers in a social group is something known as a "fool's errand": a prank in which the victim is lured into attempting to complete a ridiculous task that to the uninitiated sounds just plausible enough to be valid. Quests to find non-existent objects are a common form of fool's errand — when I was in the Boy Scouts, tenderfeet on their first campouts were typically sent off to borrow a "bacon stretcher" (an implement supposedly used to prevent one's breakfast meat from curling up in the frying pan) or a "left-handed smoke-shifter" (a device reportedly employed to prevent campfire smoke from drifting into one's tent). All the other scouts were, of course, in on the gag (having been through the same process themselves) and would merrily send the hapless tenderfoot from one location to the next in quest of something he could never find. Likewise, an innocent new employee at an airfield or dockyard might be asked to retrieve "a bucket of prop wash" or "50 feet of shoreline."
The message quoted above might be considered a type of fool's errand, a joke created to see how many people are gullible enough to call friends and try opening their car doors with cell phones.
Many new cars now come equipped with "Remote Keyless Entry" (or "Keyless Remote" or "Keyless Entry" or "Remote Entry") systems (also known as RKE systems), a mechanism which allows automobile owners to lock and unlock their car doors remotely (from up to about 300 feet away) by pressing buttons on transmitting devices small enough to be carried on keychains. RKE systems are handy for a number of reasons: they enable drivers to unlock car doors without having to fumble around for keys (a great advantage in darkness, during inclement weather, and when one's hands are full), they enable car owners to give someone else access to their vehicles without having to hand over ignition keys, and they provide a means by which motorists can open their cars to retrieve keys that have been locked inside.
But what if you accidentally lock your remote entry device in your car along with your keys? (A plausible scenario, as many people carry them together on the same keyring.) If you own a car equipped with a system such as OnStar you can contact an operator and have OnStar unlock your vehicle remotely through a signal sent via a cellular network, but otherwise you have to call a locksmith or get a friend or relative to bring an extra set of keys out to you.
Enter the idea of the poor man's OnStar. No need to pay for a fancy car-unlocking service: just use a cell phone to call someone who has access to your spare RKE device and tell him to point it at the phone and press the "UNLOCK" button. You simultaneously point the cell phone at your car door, and voilà — you're in! A nifty solution . . . at least it would be if it weren't completely implausible, the equivalent of a fool's errand for our modern technological age.
Relaying remote entry system signals via telephone might work if the signals were sound-based, but they're not. An RKE system transmits an encrypted data stream to a receiver inside the automobile via an RF (radio frequency) signal, a signal that can't be effectively relayed via cell phone. (In any event, RKE systems and cell phones typically operate on completely different frequencies; the former in the 300 MHz range and the latter in the 800 MHz range.)
We don't know whether whoever created this message was deliberately joking or earnestly mistaken, but the vision of stranded motorists vainly holding cell phones up to their cars in the hopes of unlocking them is an amusing one. One might as well suggest that a spare piano key could be used to gain entry to a locked automobile.
As a recent purchaser of a new vehicle equipped with an RKE system, I've found that it has reduced the likelihood of my locking my keys in the car in an unexpected way: Since I quickly became accustomed to always locking and unlocking the car with the RKE device, and I carry the RKE device on the same ring as my keys, I have to be standing outside the vehicle with my keys in my hand in order to lock it. Now if I only had something to keep me from losing my cell phone . . .
The "fool's errand" thing is funny. I used to work at Papa John's. We hand tossed the dough there. It was a skill that took a lot of practice. Sometimes a new employee would rip a hole in the dough. We just told them to go in the walk-in and get the "dough patch repair kit". Theres no such thing...You just pinch it back together.
The "fool's errand" thing is funny. I used to work at Papa John's. We hand tossed the dough there. It was a skill that took a lot of practice. Sometimes a new employee would rip a hole in the dough. We just told them to go in the walk-in and get the "dough patch repair kit". Theres no such thing...You just pinch it back together.
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When I was in the Navy it was "true bearing grease", "bucket of steam" and a "left handed metric screwdriver". Of course there always the tried an true "one D, ten T" (1D10T) kit for repairing magnetic lag.
Well, there was always the G, U eleven sighting kit.
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