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Old 08-04-2004, 05:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nokares

the one thing i can do without is that stupid trunk mat.

Yes!! Couldn't agree with you more on that one, superdds.
I'm still teetering a little bit on this, but the scales are tipped in favor of the navigation. You guys have given lots of great insight. Given my track record with getting lost, I think it's a good idea. I would hate to get lost in a bad area and be car jacked...or worse. [bigeyes]

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I had to make a new topic for this because I wanted to make this clear for EVERYONE! (pay attention Nokares)


**WARNING** NAVIGATION SYSTEM WILL NOT KEEP YOU AWAY FROM THE GHETTO, BARRIO, BAD NEIGHBORHOODS, STREET THUGS OR VIOLENCE!***

This is something that car companies should really consider changing about thier nav systems. Especially when nav systems are generally put in nice expensive cars. Allow me to explain.

There are 2 options for routing a destination: 1)shortest time, 2) Shortest distance. When I first got the car I decided to route my way home from the dealership, 80 miles through southern california. I chose option #2, Shortest Distance. Well, when you chose the shortest distance, the computer will take shortcuts to minimize the distance traveled. This means if the northbound freeway heads west for a bit and then back northeast, the computer will tell you to exit the freeway and take the streets to meet back up with the freeway (creating a straight line of travel). But what the computer didn't tell me was that it was going to make me drive through the dirtiest, scariest, shoot you cuz you looked at me funny part of East L.A.! There were all kind of thugs and shadey people staring at me and walking up to my car at the stop lights! I thought to my self, "I am about to be the first person who sues Infiniti because its Nav system took me through the ghetto and got me car jacked in L.A.!!!

Here's an idea for Infiniti: Since there are symbols for buildings, gas stations and stadiums, they should put a "gun" symbol or "ski-mask" or "skull'N'cross bones" symbol over the ghettos so that we know not to drive through there.

Moral of the story: ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, CHOOSE THE SHORTEST TIME OPTION! It will keep you on the freeway and out of danger!

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You could always program your nav so that the known ghetto areas are avoided when it calculates its route. I know that our Nav system has a feature where you can mark off certain areas as "designated avoid zones". This, of course, requires you to know ahead of time where the ghetto areas are...which, in all likelyhood, if you knew where they were, your own intelligence and will to survive would cause you as the driver to not follow the plotted route through the ghetto warzone as the Nav system guides you towards it.

But...I do find it strange how the Nav system almost always manages to find the most ghetto areas of town during it's route guidance. I think that it must be the result of a conspiracy that occured in the distant past during the urban planning of our countrys landscape. The gas companies and automotive industry were in cahoots with the people who planned the geographical layout of the American Landscape, and together these two groups of powerful entities came up with the following formula in order to maximize fuel consumption and automobile wear and tear:

"The shortest path between any two destinations must also be the most dangerous path. Thus all ghetto's are located along these venues. The outskirts of all ghetto communities shall be landmarked by a Dairy Queen."

I'm not really sure why Dairy Queen is in the equation(Maybe they were in cahootz too?), but it seems that they strictly adhered to that portion of the formula.

Moral of the story: If you're going to be a slave to technology, you'd better carry a glock in your glove box.
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Man, that was deep! I love the way you think!

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i'm a SIG man myself, but a glock will do nicely.
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They'll never do it because it would have to use economic demographics and would be discriminatory.

Microsoft MapPoint has a nice feature where you can "weight" the type of roads. So you can enter a strong preference for freeways, strong dislike for neighborhood streets, and highways as middle ground.

It always gives better route choices. It would be nice if the car had a USB, bluetooth, or IR port so you could upload route information and waypoints from a laptop.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Offering the benefit of the doubt, I will assume at first take this post was some sort of tongue-in-cheek suggestion or meandering.

However, if not, I would only suggest that if anyone would trust their journey through ANY major metropolitan area soley to their Nav system without any forethought to the neighborhoods, then all bets are off.

Rent a copy of Grand Canyon (the movie, 1991) and take heed.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know which areas of LA to steer clear of (so to speak []) if you have been in So.Cal. for more than a week or so. BTW, you might want to avoid South Central [dunce]

On the flip side, the tone of the post also connotes a disparaging view of other ethnic areas of the metropolis. To bring the point home (literally) You may already know that Cerritos is renowned for being one of the (if not thee most) ethnically diverse cities in the nation with barrios of its own and a crime rate higher than the national average. Lancaster, also has gang activity and a higher than norm crime rate including forcable rape, robbery, murder, assault, burglary, and yes - motor vehicle theft.

Just because these statistics may cause one to be cautious, doesn't warrant the type of "neighborhood profiling" you seem to advocate here IMO.

Not sure I'd want my hometown marked with <font color="blue">"a "gun" symbol or "ski-mask" or "skull'N'cross bones" symbol"</font id="blue"> - would you?

so much for property values [boink]

Anyhoo, take care in unknown locales, I doubt Infiniti or anyother provider of Navigation technology or software will jump on the 'ghetto zone' bandwagon no matter how nice or expensive the host vehicle is. Sometimes common sense prevails.

The insight of staying on the freeway is probably the most valuable assertion you offer.

Cheers.[8D]
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yeah super me to...i have a p228...never carried it in the G unless i'm going to the shooting range.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fastforward

BTW, you might want to avoid South Central [dunce]
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that's what usc stands for...university of south central. trojans beyotch!
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I love creating controversy!

FastForward, I, as Im sure you as well, have lived here my whole life. But I decided to let the nav system guide me and was shocked at the outcome and found it comical that my new car chose that particular path. Being an african-american myself, I in no means meant any racial or ethnic profiling other than the fact that thugs will be thugs. As for Lancaster... yeah.. this place aint no joke! Meth Capital of the world, and with people crazier than Iraqi's. Thats why I stay on the West Side, cuz the east side after dark is like compton (yes, I've been there too!)

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by superdds

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Fastforward

BTW, you might want to avoid South Central [dunce]
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that's what usc stands for...university of south central. trojans beyotch!
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Ohhhhh IC and here I always thought it stood for the University of Spoiled Children [guess you could guess my alma mater ]

For details on south central including boundaries to set on one's nav:

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/South-Central_L.A.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">forcable rape, robbery, murder, assault, burglary, and yes - motor vehicle theft.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Can any of these things occur unforcably? []
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oh, and by the way... YES! they should put a gun symbol over Lancaster! Stay away... stay far - far away!

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Ghetto? What is a "ghetto", we don't have this word in the south?

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by sandking

I love creating controversy!

FastForward, I, as Im sure you as well, have lived here my whole life. But I decided to let the nav system guide me and was shocked at the outcome and found it comical that my new car chose that particular path.
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Cool. Appreciate the clarification.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by partyman66

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">forcable rape, robbery, murder, assault, burglary, and yes - motor vehicle theft.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Can any of these things occur unforcably? []
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Well, since you ask...
Rape can be statutory not forceable, burglary and car theft can also be "unforceable"

However, paying Infiniti dealer labor rates for service is forceable
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