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Old 03-02-2004, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default What a dealer is selling a new G35 for.

I hope no one takes this as more spam in your life, but I just got an email from a dealership with the below St. Paddy's Day promotion. I am not in the business, but when I was in a different dealership, they gave me the line about a lot of people paying 3-4k over invoice, and I should be grateful to get it at invoice. Anyway, anyone about to purchase a new G35 can check the below link, if for nothing else to use to negotiate with your dealer. If you want the rest of the ad with the sales manager's name, pm me.
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<font color="green">You're Invited to our Savings O'GREEN SALES EVENT!</font id="green">

ALL IN STOCK G35 COUPES <font color="red">5% OVER FACTORY INVOICE</font id="red">
ALL IN STOCK G35 SEDANS <font color="red">1.5% OVER FACTORY INVOICE</font id="red">

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If you're a member of AAA they have a program that certain dealerships are joined up with. "AAA Pricing" means 3% over invoice, no haggling.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the diffrence between factory invoice, and MSRP? Is factory invoice the price that the dealer buys the car for? If so, how much would the factory invoice be on a G with an MSRP of about 35K? I got mine for MSRP back in July.

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Don't pay MSRP for a car. And in general, don't pay MSRP for anything. Invoice is what the dealership paid (theoretically). MSRP is what the dealer marks it up to. You buy a widget for $1 invoice cost, and try to sell it for $2, that is your MSRP. MSRP stands for manufacturers suggested retail price.

Typically 3-5% over the invoice is a good price for a car.

But people think invoice is the end-all-be-all watermark for buying a car; but no. Manufacturers frequently offer spiffs, or cash incentives to dealerships when they meet sales goals. So if you get the car for 3% over invoice you think you're doing swell, but the invoice isn't really the price of the car, because the dealership got a $1,000 spiff for selling it. So in theory, you can get the car for invoice or below invoice, if you know the car has a spiff.

I personally don't think any car is worth MSRP, or the few foolish sods that pay over MSRP. People were paying $10k over MSRP when the Miata came out, and same with the S2000. People were paying over MSRP for an Odyssey! I went into a Porsche dealership with my Dad and they had two Porsche Turbos. One was $125k, the other was $175k. The difference? You could buy the one for $175k right there on the spot and drive out with it. The one for $125 (MSRP) had a waiting list. Same when the M5 came out. The new E55 is selling for over list, as was the SL55 but I'm not sure they still are now that the SL600 came out and mashes all over the SL55.
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Elvis, or anyone that belongs to AAA(the auto group, not the alcohol group), are there any Infiniti dealerships that are members of that AAA pricing program? I wonder if that is applicable to just vehicles in stock or if they will let you order your G35 at 3% over invoice? That would be an awesome deal.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Rocket65C

Elvis, or anyone that belongs to AAA(the auto group, not the alcohol group), are there any Infiniti dealerships that are members of that AAA pricing program? I wonder if that is applicable to just vehicles in stock or if they will let you order your G35 at 3% over invoice? That would be an awesome deal.

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i'm triple a member but the rep at the dealer wouldn't budge on the msrp price. i then went on edmunds.com and printed out the tmv(true market value price) and called another dealership asking to speak with the internet sales manager. he said if he couldn't beat the edmunds price, he'd at least match it. the tmv is at least 900 below msrp. good luck.
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Yes, MSRP is to be avoided at all costs. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area we have Infiniti Of Serramonte, Infiniti Of Marin, Peninsula Infiniti, Neilo Infiniti, Infiniti Of Fairfield, Infiniti Of Pleasanton and Frontier Infiniti all within 75 miles, so I think we have more leverage than those forum members in smaller areas with less (or only 1!) Infiniti dealerships. So I do understand that MSRP is sometimes the only option for forum members. But you can always order from another dealership, out of state even, and have it shipped to you.

Rocket 65C, 3% over invoice is considered good by Consumer Reports.

http://www.carpricesecrets.com/

I haven't tried the above website, but they go into further detail about what I was saying earlier about manufacturer price incentives for dealerships. Which would mean that you could go below 3% invoice, or even at or below cost; it can be done, it has been done.

My friends went to buy an A4 Cabriolet. They asked how much it was, and the guy gave them a price. Then they said, "XXX Audi said they'd honor the AAA Pricing, will you?" and suddenly the price was THOUSANDS less than originally quoted.
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Elvis, do you think you could have talked a dealership down from MSRP back in July?

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elvis,

which dealership did you get your g at?
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